Please don't call Shane, "Batman". That is a very corny nickname. It's pretty lazy and uncreative too. "Hmmm Shane Battier....I got it! Let's call him BATMAN!"
I just call him Shane or Battier. hard working guys like him don't need nicknames. hell, I wouldnt call chuck "the chuckwagon" if it wasnt for B&B constantly calling him that.....and it amuses me. dont take it hard rook, you didnt get popped down for supporting shane, you got it for ,as mentioned previously, starting a thread with little substance. pulling back up the last thread from when we played Memphis last would have been the right move in this case. Let that be a lesson and dont give up, lord knows we need people that *actually* support our guys.
when battier averages 10 points and at the same time, can hold someone(kevin durant) to 4 points when they average 19 points, i'd rather stay with shane battier over rudy gay who just averages 20 points
Battier doesn't "hold" any NBA offensive player to anything. He's a very average 1 on 1 defender who uses a degree of intelligence to mentally figure out where the help defender (double team) is coming from. IOW, he a very good team defender which compensates for his lack of footspeed and athleticism. He did what you'd expect against Durant because the Sonics have absolutely NO other player who requires a double team. Case in point. The Kings have multiple players that can create and get their own shots making them harder to double or trap. Artest had 30 and Kevin Martin had 27. Which one was Battier guarding?
Give me a 2nd yr gay over this version of battier any day. My memory is pretty good and I'm trying to see if a team that hadn't won a playoff series in 8 yrs traded away a top 10 lotto pick for a guy that avg 10ppg . Just from reasoning stand point and u had the lotto pick because ur to stars went down, and all u have to show for it is shane battier. Did I mention u also gave thm a player. I just want to know, if shane was on that team now, how many wins would they have? To make matters worse, we're still looking for a quality 3rd scorer. No one ever said gay wasn't coachable. With his talent and good coaching, theres no telling how good he would be being the 3rd scorer. He might not be 20ppg, but 15ppg on this team would be good. Shane does a lot of things, but shane's talents are easy to replace. Really, shane is a bench guy. He's a 25mins sub on a championship team unless u have a trio that can get u 55-65 ppg. That's isn't worth a top 10 lotto pick.
Negativity started to creep in because you created a useless thread with zero productive arguments and/or facts. There for sir, you:
While I agree giving away such a high lotto pick is foolish, Battier brings leadership to the Rockets team incase you hadn't noticed. He helps to keep the team motivated off the court. I think even McGrady admitted to this at one time. Having high basketball IQ players on a team > then 10 ppg difference between the 2 players imo. Good trade to me.
This team would not be even in the playoffs for time Shane has been here. Even having two Gays for Shane wouldn't do it..
Seriously? Not even close to correct. Brad Miller had 10 points in 22 minutes before he was thrown out with his 2nd technical foul at 7:21 in Q3. Go to any game flow and observe Miller's on court minutes paralled Mutombo, Scola, Landry and Hayes nearly perfectly. Congratulations. Of the thousands of Battier Jock-riders on this site, you have managed to gain entry into a select group of posters who know absolutely nothing about basketball. Yao and McGrady carried Hayes into the playoffs. I'm sure this years' team with Rudy Gay, Stro Swift, Scola, Landry, Brooks and Adelman wouldn't lose to the EC or 2nd tier playoff teams enough to drop past the Nuggets or Warriors. This season, Rudy Gay has averaged 17 ppg against the Celtics, 19 ppg against the Pistons, 24.5 ppg against last years EC Champ Cavaliers, 24 ppg against the WC leading Hornets, and 17+ against the defending champ Spurs and the Jazz. Other than some ridiculous over valuing of 9 pp and intangibles, you can't possibly suggest Rudy Gay and Stromile Swift on this year's team would make allow the Rockets drop below the Nuggets or Warriors. That is unparalled lunacy. Exactly. The Spurs originally obtained Bruce Bowen for half an MLE. Now the Spurs have targeted Udoka as Bowen's successor and Udoka's salary starts @ $1m/year. Battier is a "specialist". You pick up "specialists" in the late 1st round or through Free Agency. Using a #8 (and not getting MEM's #24) was not well thought out. It never ceases to amaze me how many posters still can't comprehend what a huge failure "Win Now" was.
I disagree. Battier was brought here to win now. So far the returns on that trade has yeilded no playoff series victories. The Rockets should've went with the younger talent. This league is moving toward a trend of talented and atheletic players. And that's one of the reason why the Rockets aren't going to make it out the first round.
Really? Maybe the league as a whole is. But the Heat, Spurs, Pistons and Lakers of years past... you know, the champs, seem to be built around a core of veterans with solid fundamentals (sans Dwade and Young Kobe on those Laker teams).
