[yahoo woj report]Nuggets Looking Into Three-Way Trades

What exactly is Morey offering? Have you some inside info that others do not?

Come on, spill the beans amigo !

History is irrelevent in discussing this season, and many of those teams that won had their players listed as SUPERSTARS after they won the title, it is easy to look back and say the same.

Who is to say that Martin won't be a Superstar, or Brooks, or Cbud, or etc...etc..etc...

I understand your point YY, I really do, and I respect your and others views on that.

I just don't happen to agree with you.

If Melo burned to win, and you could see a guy who did everything on the court to get his team to win, then yes...I would be all in...but the guy reminds me so much of Tmac.

He doesn't play hard all the time, his demeanor on the court is poor at times, he quits on defense, take all of that into consideration and then factor in that you have to pay him top dollar.....and he just does not add up for me.

I mean you go get a guy like a young Charles Barkley, even though he was an *******, because you could see that competitive fire, that hatred of losing.....

I do not see that in Melo....I see a guy who is supremely talented at scoring and not much else.

That is a potential fire hazard my friend, I just think that he will whine his way out of Denver, and then whine his way out of the next stop too....

Not good enough to build around, IMO.

DD

 

I understand why the Rockets would want to be part of the trade in that situation, but I still don't see why the Nuggets would want those picks.

There would be no real incentive for the Nuggets or the Knicks to include us in a three way trade over some other team that has better draft picks to offer.

 

WOW, DD better hope his internet isn't capped before the Melo saga ends :-D

Getting into player worth is dicey. Yao's professionalism and class aren't things you can quantify. Just like you couldn't measure the air McGrady sucked out of our tires his last two seasons on the team with his petulance.

Saying that, I find it almost undebatable that Melo would instantly become our primary scorer and focal point.

Yao's days as a 20ppg man might be finished. This year, at least, we should count ourselves fortunate if he averages 12 and 6 with his curtailed minutes.

Martin I like a lot, but it'd be tough to argue that he could lead a playoff team very far as its go-to-man. In my opinion, his ideal role is as a top tier #2 option.

Brooks has been good for us, but I personally don't put much value in high scoring point guards much. The line of PGs averaging 20 ppg and making it even to the conference finals is fairly short. IMO, you want your PG distributing the ball and feeding off of kick outs. Iverson was the most prolific scorer ever at the position, and he only made a single Finals (during a down year in the East). At 6-0, he simply can't affect the game the way Martin or Melo can. For all your talk about efficiency, Brooks is easily the least efficient of the 3.

 

Sorry for my laziness; any updates?

 

So you put Value in Melo averaging 20ppg but not Brooks....in the same NBA?

DD

 

I WANT MY PICKS BACK.

 

I've said it a long time ago, denver wants favors and his upside. When people start comparing you to dwight howard and you're 19 yrs old, thats alot to want. Houston was never in the picture, but because morey callas everyone and checks every option, they're always somewhere in the picture if that makes any sense. i still contend and have been told by someone very trustworthy that the nuggets are trying to get rid of nene as well if they deal anthony. Now whether thats using a 3 way or something, thats how it will get done. If morey can use the picks or contracts to squeez very talented player like randolph out the deal, that would be great. I see him as a larry nance type of guy, but his ceiling is so high it would be worth the risk. Patterson or Hill could also be included to make the deal worth it.

 

You know well and good neither of those guys are superstars or ever will be one. Martin has been in the league for how long? He cant even get his team out the lotto. I like brooks and bud, but neither are superstar talents either. Look, we know your feeling on anthony and you have the right to your opinion, but because you're out-typing everyone and saying it over and over again doesn't make it right.

 

Unless you think it supports your argument.

 

Go look up Mo Williams' numbers. His efficiency dwarfs AB's.

CBud, etc etc etc as a potential superstar? Really? Which players on our roster do you have under et cetera that can become a bonafide superstar?

Melo isn't a superstar but AB, CBud, etc can become one. Riiiight.

 

It is just an opinion, and Martin is not a Superstar, I agree, but I don't think Melo is either.

I am not saying Melo sucks, I am saying you get the same production out of higher character guys for less $$$$$....

And that he is not worth a Max contract.....or any quality pieces....if you can get him cheaply like Artest, then sure...otherwise, we are better off as a TEAM playing with whom we have on the roster.

LOL - yeah...that is true....heh.

DD

 

Carmelo averaged closer to 30 points than 20 at 28.2 ppg where Brooks was at a career best 19.6 in a year where he was asked to do more scoring than he is likely to this year. Rounding scoring averages by 8 points makes Rafer Alston and Aaron Brooks comparable scorers

 

I agree Melo averaged more, that was his job, Brooks was also a distributor....

Now, I am not saying they are equal talent, Melo is clearly the better player, but I am saying Brooks fits the Rockets better....

DD

 

...Fans such as yourself?

 

PSSSH...I don't bother voting in that nonesense......I prefer to have my team's players rest up for the playoff run.

:grin:

DD

 

The Nets aren't giving up either Favors or Lopez and it's questionable that Melo would even sign the extension with them in the first place.

Also the Knicks apparently aren't working hard enough to get Melo and are finding it very difficult to get a 3rd team involved so they could give Denver some high end lotto picks.

 

The longer this drags out, the better it is for us. I don't see NJ or Chicago giving up a big, and that only leaves us or the Knicks.

 

Now I see why DD has 70k plus posts. He's constantly having to explain himself to damn near everyone else in whatever thread he's on.

 

Gosh, who would think that people would be discussing the Rockets on a bulletin board?

Crazy....



DD

 

But the worse it is for ClutchFans......