[yahoo woj report]Nuggets Looking Into Three-Way Trades

He allegedly smokes...I hesitate to even type the word...mar1juana..

Not to mention all those terrible tattoos.

Oh, and something about a tweet... And let's not forget that YouTube clip...or something...

 

I think he got caught with bud once.

Oh noes! An athlete smoking ganga. Say it ain't so!

 

Well you guys may be ok with it, doesn't mean everyone is....

DD

 

Hmm. Don't make me bust out the DM quote.



The right way hasn't won us ish!

 

Don't be so naive. Everyone and their momma smokes in the NBA & NFL.

 

and the ones who get caught, get suspended

im all for Melo...but i dont want to deal with the baggage so hopefully he checks it at the door

 

Smoking mar1juana is thuggish now haha. He's gone off the deep end.

 

Neither has the wrong way...lol...your point?

Melo doesn't mean we win anything...is that what you are thinking?

Melo guarantees something....

This team hasn't even been on the floor together.....let them play and see what we have, make an informed decision and go from there.

DD

 

I won't spend a lot of time going back and forth with you because it's apparent that would be futile, as you appear to be very close minded regarding this player. You said he was arrested. No charges no guilty pleas no conviction. When did being a part of a video make a person a thug. If allegedly being caught with mar1juana and being a part of a didstasteful video that probably 3/4 of America has never heard of makes one a thug, we've got some serious thugs here in Houston. I guess you never drank and drove either. It's illegal too.

 

Excuses excuses.....

Whether or not I like people who smoke it, or whether I consider smoking it stupid, is irrelevent.

I think that getting CAUGHT taking it in your bag to the airport is not all that bright, can we agree there?

Melo has never struck me as a guy who is desperate to win, he has that "I wanna be a celebrity" look about him, someone more concerned with being famous than winning basketball games.

Is he a THUG? Hell, I don't know, but I personally do not like some of the THUGISH stuff he has done.

It is certainly not all that smart.

DD

 

There is alot of discussion on why the Rocket's should dump the picks they aquired from the Knicks if he is going to NY any way, but no reason given as to why the Nuggets would want those picks. If the picks are of no value to us, they would be of minimal value to the Nuggets as well.

It seems more likely the Nuggets would either get a different team other than the Rockets involved who can offer more valuable picks, or they don't trade with the Knicks, in which case our picks still retain value for us.

I don't necessarily subscribe to the trade just so you get "something" philosophy either, especially considering Morey's over all success with non-lottery draft picks.

 

That is a fair enough point......but the point about the picks was to facilitate Melo going to the Knicks, which would be a smart move by Morey.

If Melo is going there anyway, might as well get something for it, and get a quality player out of the Western Conference making the Rockets path to the finals easier.

DD

 

If you're taking a hardline stance on things that players did too long ago.

http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-143226581.html

Does this mean you're jumping on the Lowry bandwagon?

 

My point is that even the Jailblazers were one decent quarter away from winning a title. They would have won it for sure if they got past LA.

They choked in the fourth quarter but they still got further than any Rockets team since 1997.

 

how is brooks a legitimate 20ppg scorer when his career best was 19.6ppg last season and his usage rate is expected to go down next season with Yao on the team, as well as other added offensive options in Lee, Patterson and Miller?

For that matter Yao wont get 20ppg either with his 24mpg restriction.


the only player on the rockets that could average 20ppg or more next season is Martin.

And I wouldnt call Melo just a scorer he has expanded his game the last few seasons, when he first entered the league he was just a scorer but not anymore.

The way I see it is that you have an issue with Melo and that clouts your judgement on a player who is a top 10 talent in the league, those really dont come by often. Chances are though he wont end up in Houston which is unfortunate but you have to try to pull out all the stops to get him.


NJ doesnt have much on their team if they give up Lopez or Favors that team is worse than what denver has now. Its probably Melo's camp that is rejected any trade offers from NJ that include Favors.

Chicago doesnt want to give up Noah because they have no other big men the only player over 6'9 on that team after noah is their rookie from turkey Omer Asik. thats like going into the season saying your 7 footer is David Andersen. cant expect anything out of him. Kurt Thomas can play center at 6'9 but at his age to think he can play a lion's share of minutes at the 5 spot is ridiculous. Also considering Noah is their "Luis Scola" type of hustle energy player that is a fan favorite i can see why they would be hesitant to trade him for anyone. Its like if Morey traded Scola everyone here would be pissed and if it wasnt for a LeBron, Durant, Kobe, Wade, Howard type of elite superstar there will always be fans where who would resent that.

Melo is a franchise player just not on the same level as the five above -who all are on the path of going down as some of the best ever at their position- but a guy that the team can clearly build around but would need more talent around him to win compared to the 5 above. Kind of like Dirk, a guy who is a top 10 talent, won MVP but needed some very good players around him to go to the finals.

Right now Melo would be the best player on this team easily and giving up Martin, or Battier or Brooks or whatever combination of players that would be necessary to get him would help make the Rockets more of a contender than before. it gives the team a face again. Whether you want to believe it or not it would bring the team respect again from the national media. as much as well all like to say national media respect doesn't mean anything it does, the more the team name is out there it does affect the refs and the appearances. the more high profile games the rockets have during the reg season because of Anthony the more scrutiny the refs will be under from the national media and the more likely or less likely they will blow the whistle that would make them seem like a bad guy or come under fire. The refs are human too and now more than ever need to protect their reputation.


All of these factors in when you bring a player of Anthony's caliber onto the team. If he is avaiable you go after him with all you got...Morey is offering more because the other teams cant to make it so he will come here. Even with Morey offering more there is still more than enough talent on this Rockets team to compete for it all with Anthony...the other teams cannot say the same.

Melo is a superstar in the league, he may not be a superduperstar but he is a superstar and there are only a handful of those in the league and if you wish to contend for a championship you must have at least a superstar on your team. There has only been 1 team in what the last 30 or so years that won a champhionship without a superstar, the 2004 pistons, right now the Rockets are in that boat with no superstar (sorry Yao isnt a superstar, not coming off of injuries and missing an entire season to only play structured limited minutes) Personally I want the formula that has helped teams, including the Rockets teams in 94 and 95, win championships 29 out the last 30 years.

Make the move for Anthony whether or not the pieces work and the stars aligned and the trade happens is a different story but you have to go in and make the effort. Even if it means we have to give up a little more to get him then do it because even after a potential trade the Rockets will still be loaded with enough talent to compete for a title.

 

It means that AB is a competitor......and cares more about winning.



And I like Lowry too....best backup PG in the league.

DD

 

serious ownage by the_yoyo once again

 

I never said or implied that you disliked people who smoked or not. As I said you don't choose to be rational or open minded. The only relevant issue here is whether Carmelo would help the Rox more than who they have currently. Personal character attacks just don't really have a place in a bball forum in my opinion. It borders on other issues that I'm sure you would vehemently deny as being true or accurate about you.

 

I had no idea! Let's give him a r****ded name like Aaron CROOKS and judge him!!

 

DD, btw, what do you think about my earlier proposal of getting Gallinari with one of those Knicks picks even if Melo goes to NY?