[Yahoo Video] Mac's contract will make it tough to move him

Well no **** sherlock its about a contract next year. You keep mentioning he wants a big money contract. My question was do you really think he'll take a big contract from a mediocore team as opposed to taking less to join a contender.

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well only tmac knows that.

i'd say that 99% of nba players take the largest contract offered to them, even at the expense of winning. recent example, turkoglu choosing toronto over portland.

 

Agreed. If he is back he does need to do all those things, and if he is truly healthy then I think he will. When he was healthy he moved without the ball and helped the offense tremendously. If he comes back and stinks it up, then sit him. Pretty simple.

He mishandled last year, and so did the Rockets. They are the ones that let him do his routine, so they are at fault as well for letting him have that much say. He wasn't intentionally trying to hurt the Rockets with his antics last year, he just had a frustrating injury that was mishandled. Other than last year he has done good by us, so the Rockets do need to try and work it out.

You are right, his value is an expiring contract. But what if he comes back and actually plays well? Then his value is even greater, and Morey could likely have more trade options for him. If he comes back and stinks it up, he still is just an expiring contract. No harm in playing him, he NEEDS to play.

 

Get a rope!!!!

 

But Turk isn't known for his lack of success like T-mac. He isn't ridiculed for never getting out the first round. Plus, Turk never got paid 20 mil a year like Tmac. Not a good comparison. At some point, you get tired of the loser label and want to start winning. Even if it means riding coat tails to the ring. Look at how GP and Malone joined the Lakers that one year.

 

Well WATSON !!

I don't give two shiny rats BUTT CHEEKS for where he goes next year and what contract he takes.

But any team that would sign him would like to know he can still play on the NBA floor, right?

And that is why he needs to get on the floor to show them...and if not with the Rockets then that is why I think they work on a buyout.

DD

 

I've been saying this for weeks but nobody wants to listen. Most posters here that want him traded seem to think there's some gigantic market and inclination for teams to gut their roster to trade for a $20M+ player. The point is the only teams that are willing to do that are teams that don't care about being competitive this year. A team like the Knicks. Why is that the case? Because there's a 50/50 shot that he can't play anymore. Do I believe that he can't play anymore? No, far from it....but as was the case with Marbury last year, teams weren't biting on his ginormous expiring contract out of fear that they'll gut their roster and risk being competitive for a player that has nothing left.

Bottom line: he has value as an expiring contract. Not much due to the aforementioned problem, but teams with nothing to play for are going to continue to offer us garbage like Eddy Curry and Sam Dalembert. Now, if you PLAY him and showcase his body and talents, guess what happens? You start to catch people's attention. Teams like GS, NO, Washington, Chicago, Indiana, etc that are all stuck in basketball purgatory that have the necessary assets to complete such a trade and actually care about being competitive -- those type of teams will see him playing and think "Hey, we can make a trade like this and not stick a fork in the season. Okay, i'm listening...".

This is the type of scenario that playing him creates. I have always been perplexed by those that claim his trade value is essentially frozen. Clearly, I couldn't disagree more.

 

It doesn't matter if he comes back and plays well, because his contract still expires this year and he can walk away from anyone that trades for him.

DD

 

good point. maybe you get tired of losing, but do you get tired of getting paid max? i think tmac thinks he's still a max player and wants to earn that money. after all, he does have to pay maintenance fee's on his private jet. if i were tmac i would be happy being ridiculed all the way to the bank.

 

You know DD, any other time I would be saying you been in the medicine vabinet again, but the way things have been going with T-Mac and management I may have to agree with you.

There's bad blood with T-Mac and management and as Clutch pointed out <a href="http://twitter.com/clutchfans/status/5991854307">"It's not going to end well"</a>...

So I can actually see them buying him out after the deadline....

I had to warn you too many times about making me look bad, T-Mac. You see, it's the principal. There's principalities in the whole thing.

 

True, he is a rental just like Artest was. Which is why the Rockets need to play him if he is healthy, otherwise they needlessly create an unnecessary situation that could easily be avoided.

 

and if they play him, and he decides to concentrate on earning his next contract instead of helping the team win, then what?

we're winning right now, and we've had the toughest schedule in the nba thus far says espn. we've got amazing chemistry to boot. why risk all of that?

 

that's one of the most asinine posts you're ever written, and that's saying a lot.

 

If they play him and it doesn't work out, then sit him. There is NO risk in inserting Tracy McGrady into the lineup. The point is you have to play him if he is healthy and ready to go, otherwise you appear shady as an organization. They have every right to not want to have Tracy be a part of their future, it is a business after all. But at least be upfront about it, don't lie and say "we are just being cautious." Tracy McGrady is only one of the things to consider. If this situation turns ugly because the Rockets were disingenuous with McGrady, what superstar is going to want to come to Houston? Besides, history shows that a healthy McGrady actually HELPS this team, and he had great chemistry with these same guys during that 22-game winning streak.

 

a very good argument, but that chemistry was before he quit on them last year. this year a few insiders have posted here that there aren't a lot of tmac supporters left on the roster.

playing him and then sitting him if it doesn't work would be the worst thing the team could do because it would air the dirty laundry of this whole situation. it would become a huge distraction, if it isn't already. needless to say, i agree with the route the organization is taking.

let me ask you this; if tmac plays and we win a few more games, then he leaves over the summer and we get nothing... would that be better than just holding him out and letting the chips fall where they may in regards to this season? either way we're not winning a championship, so whats the difference?

 

If he comes back and plays well within the structure, of course with a few modifications as they will do with Yao, wouldn't he deserve more time?

 

He didn't quit on the Rockets last year, both he and the team mishandled an injury which led to complications with the team chemistry. Both Tracy and the organization are to blame for that. There should be NO people on this roster that have ill will towards McGrady. Aside from last year he was always there for them and they played well as a unit. Airing out dirty laundry will only happen if this situation gets ugly somehow. If the Rockets DONT play him, then he will get frustrated and will start demanding answers. If the Rockets don't give him straight answers, then it gets ugly and the team chemistry becomes jeopardized anyway. If the play Tracy and he helps them, then all is well. If he begins to compromise the team then they need to act and bench him. Then if the situation gets ugly, its ALL on Tracy and that will affect his ability to get a contract next year. If he walks, he walks. We still have the same current team with a returning yao. By then, Aaron, Trevor, and Carl will all be better (Carl and Aaron could become go-to-guys by then along with Yao, which would allow Trevor to become what he is). There really is no risk at all.

 

I can imagine this statement made a lot of people who spent $70 on a #3 T-Mac swingman jersey very unhappy... :grin: but I have to to agree with you, DD.

 

Actually I think DD is right. If they continue to hold Tracy out past the trading deadline, he will be bought out. The media circus and drama around TMac and the organization by then will have reached Marbury levels.

 

Great retort, thanks for sharing, come again !

DD