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[Yahoo Video] Mac's contract will make it tough to move him

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by TheGreat, Dec 13, 2009.

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  1. DaDakota

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    I have already but apparently you are not capable of understanding it.

    I can't help you if you can't grasp the concepts involved.

    Look - be honest.......

    Tracy even if he does play here, will not get the minutes or touches he will need to prove he is a star player and get a contract he thinks he needs.

    So, why not do what is best for EVERYONE......if they can't trade him, and just buy him out, let him go to a team that he wants to go play for and will get his game going, and the Rockets save some money and move forward with the guys they have?

    It makes PERFECT sense....financially and career wise.....

    DD
     
  2. Wolfpack101

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    Why on earth would they buy him out if he is healthy and ready to play? Daryl Morey and Rick Adelman aren't you, they are sensible people that understand that a healthy Tmac does HELP this team.
     
  3. DaDakota

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    They buy him out because they know he won't be happy with 20 minutes a game...and limited touches..


    Oh, whatever, you people will get it eventually when he is gone...this year or next.

    DD
     
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    You sure about that? I could have sworn I read he was covered for the full season and that even if he came back and played, insurance would still cover any further games missed. I could be wrong but I was under the impression that's how it worked under the league's TTD policy.
     
  5. TMac4Life#1

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    This proves it right here. Your actually saying Ariza and Battier are better than McGrady. A Rookie in Chase will actually get mins n touches over McGrady if he is activated. HAHAHAHA DD your the best.

    A guy with a $23 mil contract will not get mins and touches. I've never heard of that. So the Rockets are going to sit a guy on the bench making that much money if he is activated and good to go. Boy I would love to see how you would operate and coach a team.
     
  6. the_hustler

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    makes more sense to let the contract expire and get money via insurance right? works perfectly.

    also . trade with miami for J O'neal also makes sense. we get a center.
     
  7. caneks

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    Will you leave to another forum after this season?
     
  8. DaDakota

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    At some point, the insurance doctors will question whether he is healthy enough to play, unless the policy is written to where the org gets paid even if they "HOLD HIM OUT"

    If that is the case then you are right there is no reason to buy him out.

    I am operating under the assumption that it is a typical insurance policy that only pays to cover injury....

    DD
     
  9. Wolfpack101

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    What? So you are ok with Ariza throwing up 18 shots a game instead of Tracy? What makes you think Tracy won't be ok with taking 15-18 shots a game?
     
  10. RMGEEGEE

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    Thanks for making this thread worthwhile.

    Everything else is words already spoken.

    Also, this video contained a lot of BS.
     
  11. Angkor Wat

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    So do you think he'll take more money from a lottery team or take a pay cut and join a contender? I believe T-Mac rather have playoff success over another big contract at this point. I don't think any contending team can offer Mac a big contract. Correct me if I'm wrong.
     
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    I guess these matters are vague for a reason. I'm sure Rockets brass has read and understands all the fine print. Adrian Wojnarowski is the only credible source outside the Rockets organization that i've seen comment on this matter so i'm just going by what he's saying. Unfortunately, I went back and read his piece from November that I was basing my info off of and he doesn't say what type of insurance policy it is (i.e. can he be "forced" to play or at least activated, etc.).

    What you're saying makes sense and could be the case, but then again, wasn't it was you I was arguing with a week or so ago in one the many "Could/Should we play him?" threads -- weren't you the one saying that he still has knee pain? In any event, Morey and Adelman seem to be pretty good at stalling this matter so it wouldn't surprise me if this saga went well beyond the immediate future. Stay tuned, I suppose.... :mad:
     
  13. larsv8

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    So theres what 35 games left Febuary on, so the Rockets would owe Tracy ~10 million, 8 million covered by insurance, 2 million out of pocket. So you expect either A.) Tracy to walk away from 8 million and take a 2 million dollar buyout to get some playing time or B.) The Rockets the pay more money out of pocket to do Tracy a favor.

    There is no forest, its in your head, thats why no one can see it.
     
  14. DaDakota

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    SIGH -------

    It will not be a contract THIS year, it will be to prove he gets a contract for NEXT year.

    If Tracy is healthy, and the insurance company agrees, and the Rockets can not move him (trust me they are trying), then it benefits both sides to do a buyout and let him move on and prove himself to the league elsewhere.

    Barring injury to one of our wings, he will NOT get a chance to prove his value this year, there are not enough minutes available and the organization has made it clear that they are moving forward without him.

    Whether YOU...or any of the other Tbaggers agrees.

    DD
     
  15. rockets > *

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    It doesn't really matter if he's happy or not...he's unhappy right now but he cant do anything about it. Synonymously, he can't do anything about it if he doesn't get the minutes he WANTS when he starts playing either...

    We can Marbury him if worse comes to worse and just wait for his contract to expire.
     
  16. DaDakota

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    Exactly......you don't think that once the trade deadline passes that the two camps will look at a buyout option if he is not traded?

    I mean Tracy will want to prove he can still play, and the Rockets would love to get some relief from his contract.

    This is, of course, assuming that the insurance contract situation is one in which they pay only if he is not healthy, if the team can hold him out anyway...they they might just be better off doing that......but that would create a major cancerous situation and not be good for anyone....
     
  17. HTown_TMac

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    Why would insurance stop? Why wont T-Mac have enough shots? Why can Ariza shoot up that many shots? Why should our we still be looking at Battier for offense? Why can't we have someone in who can play some type of half court offense? Why can't we let the man show he can play?


    Why do people try to make the arguments go in their favor instead of speaking the truth....
     
  18. Air Langhi

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    I hope rick and morey know what they are doing. Don't think other players aren't watching and taking note of what the rockets are doing. Ultimately this is a players league and if you can't get top tier players you will be mediocre.
     
  19. Hball

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    Maybe if Ariza gets suspended t-mac will play
     
  20. MrButtocks

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    DD's not crazy. Look at the Marbury situation last year. The knicks explored all possible trades for his massive expiring contract. When nothing came about they bought him out to save pennies and, more importantly, avoid a distraction. All the Marbury talk ended when he left and I'm sure the rockets would like the same to happen now. DD is actually right in this case.

    What I disagree with is Tmac not being a contributor. We do not have better options on the wings. Battier's not playing up to par and is suffering terribly from Yao and Tmac's absense. I don't care what anyone says, Ariza is horrible. His defense is decent, offensively he is trying way too much. He takes 17 shots per game. That's more than Chris Bosh, Vince Carter, Brandon Roy, and Rudy Gay. He shoots the lowest percentage of anyone in the top 50 of FGA. Everyone above him in attempts shoots a higher percentage and scores at least 20 a game. Ariza needs to be reigned in, or preferably someone better needs to take up that role.

    If McGrady is healthy, Batter needs to go to the bench and Ariza take the role he had in Los Angeles. People knock McGrady's playing style, but Ariza's playing a poor man's Tmac right now. I don't know how anyone can tolerate it.
     

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