And Mike James would say that he is hands down the best player in the league. Would you give it to Mike James? Your example is the perfect example of 'damned if he does, damned if he doesn't'. I bet that if he says he deserves it over everyone else, you would say that he is too arrogant and would much rather see Kobe win it. LeBron is better than Kobe and the reasons why most still are in denial are in proffesorjay's post. But he probably won't get the award for reasons already stated - a)Kobe hasn't won it; b)mediocre record.
Based on the unwritten and largely unspoken "criteria" used when selecting MVP it is definitely Kobe's time. He is without a doubt one of the top 5 guys in the game. His team is considered a Championship contender and he has played most if not all of the season. MVP has nothing to do with the "best" player or the player who means the most to his team. It should but it doesn't.
Kobe's team didnt have at least 50 wins. Kobe's stats weren't as good as LeBron's were LeBron's indivdual and team record was better, and he didn't win it. Stop making up reasons why Kobe didnt win, when he fell short anyhow.
Funny people are penalizing Lebron for grapping rebounds and setting up teamates (assists)--normally it is scoring that is associated with stat padding. Makes you wonder how Magic Johnson got any MVPs. Lebron is the best overall player in the game. He is the most relentless and dominant force over the course of a game. Lebron also had just as good of case for being skipped over previous years. But if Kobe can lead his team to the #1 seed in the West, yeah, he would be hard to deny him the award. But that is no sure thing--let's not pretend it is, right now they are behind the Spurs in the loss column and some other teams are not far behind. If the teams are close in seeding (e.g., Lakers are 2, Cavs are a 3)--the better player and statistically more dominant player should get it, Lebron James. Oh, and I am sorry, but Paul is not realistically in the picture, Lebron is only a notch or two behind him in assists and steals, and dominates in other respects.
It's interesting that when you listen to the arguments for Kobe over LeBron, everything is completely subjective. Nothing specific and measurable is cited. While Kobe is undoubtedly the more skilled and experienced player, that does not, in itself, make him the more effective player. That's my problem. People say stuff like "Kobe is the better player, period" without citing anything tangible to make that case. Oh, he has a better record ... well would the Lakers not have a great record if they switched out Kobe for LeBron? People say he's more clutch and at the end of close games they'd rather have him. Ok, define that scenario explicitly, and we can look over the play-by-plays the last couple seasons and see which player was actually more successful.
Wtf are u talking about? Did you even read what I posted? So if Lebron's team doesn't win 50 games this year then he shouldn't get the MVP right?
Kobe's team was an 7th seed that year, correct? There is a difference between been medicore in your conference than being at least in the upper group. Nash took a rag tag group that year (no Amare) to the #2 seed. If you weighed both decent team placement and stats--Lebron was the guy. Yes (sorta), if Lebron can neither get his team to 50 wins (16-6 the rest of the way) nor the 3rd seed it will make him have a much weaker case. Similarly, if Kobe can get his team to the #1 seed in the West that will about cement it for him. But both of these are to be determined. Lebron has the better case as the individual--but I'll grant you if Kobe's team is in a much better position come playoff time you won't hear gripes from me if he gets it. Certainly the MVP race SHOULD not be settled yet because people think Kobe is owed, because Lebron has just as good of case for being owed. Otherwise we will get another travesty like when Duncan had the better stats on the better team yet the trophy went to Karla. Let it play out, and who earns it, should get it.
I liked the article. I think Lebron is the Most Valuable Player this year. He does more for his less talented team to win. Some how the last couple years people had this new criteria for voting for the best player on the best team and it has led to this huge debate between Kobe and Lebron this year. I never felt that Dirk deserved it. Nash was debatable. Kobe should have probably earned it a couple years back. I think Kobe's off the court problems helped to lead to the new criteria for voting. The NBA is a very public sport so I can't say I'd argue with that if it were the case. I don't think this year though that Kobe deserves the award just for being surrounded by superior talent especially when Lebron has beat him head to head. Isn't Cleveland 17 games over .500 when Lebron plays? If that is that is Cleveland's record I take Lebron as the MVP as he is sourrounded by faaaar less talent.
Yes I did read, and you need to read what I said. Being consistent with history of the award, no player has won it with at least having a 50 win team, so NO. Kobe didn't do it, and Bron probably won't either. Don't get me wrong, I would vote LeBron in a heartbeat over Kobe opposed to the bias media, but that's something you have no real case for. People keep saying Kobe should have won it, but sorry, plenty of players led scrub teams to the playoffs having 30ppg seasons and didnt win it... that includes Tmac.
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I've always said that the Lakers are a very deep team loaded with talent. But let's look at the current Cavs roster. They are pretty close to the Lakers as having a lot of talent. Wallace Wally Wzerbiak Joe Smith Big Z Delonte West That European guy Boobie Gibson etc. So don't tell me that Lebron doesn't have any talent around him.
Top 4 players: Gasol > Big Z Odom > Wally Bynum > Wallace Fisher > Boobie/West Keep going down the list and the Lakers are better...
Are you serious? It's been, what...a week so far? And if anyone's actually been watching the 'new' team play...it's coming along slowly. They better get it together by playoff time or else LBJ will have to carry the whole team again.
That's fine, I was just making the comparison back then to now. If there is no double standard, then Lebron shouldn't get it.
Hmm, tough one. This one actually makes my brain kind of twist and turn because Kobe and LBJ are both dominant players of this game. As much as I think that Kobe deserves to be MVP more than LBJ, I think Chris Paul should and will get it. CP3 is a beast, without him the Hornets wouldn't be 40-19. As of today, CP3 is averaging 20.9 points, 10.8 dishes and 2.7 steals A GAME. He controls this team by far without a doubt, also to add in another stat, he has had at least 1 steal in all the games that he has played this year, that is dominant. Kobe is Kobe, he's one force you gotta be rekoned with. As much as Kobe could get the MVP, why not TMAC get the MVP, if the Rockets continue the streak, and make it to 20, or 25, or 35, or even finish this season with 38 by not losing a game now?! TMAC would seriously get some MVP votes, IMO. But all in all I think CP3 deserves it, he's a pure Steve Nash in the making, if not a better Steve Nash, that reads the defense pretty clearly and knows what the heck he's doing, JUST like Kobe, but I don't see Kobe getting the MVP. I gotta say CP3, not Kobe and not LBJ.
yeah, lakers as of now does have a better roster, but who are they playing against? the West, and LBJ most deals with pathetic EAST teams
