I'm sure he isnt, but thats what we need. Someone who can score, and sell tickets with tmac and yao out. Remember morey was talking about finding "veteran players that have more left in them than other teams see" ? Yea iverson is still good and when tmac comes back, that would be a high scoring duo.
To tie in to what DD said, I think the state of the economy has something to do with why he couldnt get his asking price. Seasons past his negative may not have mattered as much. I wish he'd stayed a Rocket. I thought he was enjoyable to watch and helped us win more games then he caused us to lose. As far as a fan goes what more do you need? Maybe its just me, but the Houston fan base seems to turn on players quickly. Good luck Wafer.
Sigh... I am really gonna miss his energy and scoring punch off the bench. People may be angry at him for having a supposed attitude problem, but he was the perfect type of SG the Rockets had been searching many years for. From David Wesley being too small, to Derek Anderson being too old, to Kirk Snyder having no jumpshot... hate all you want, Von was the only SG in years who had the size, shot, and speed/athleticism to get to the rack on a consistent basis. It won't be as easy as you think it is to fill the void next year.
2nd time returners to Houston rarely fare well: Moochie Norris SF3 Mike James Not the best company to be in...
true. Tracy is going to do the same. I believe the bond between Tracy and the Rockets are somewhat stronger than that of Wafer and the organization. You always remember playing for a classy organization. Even if he shall go, he will always remember the good ol times with Broke leg comrade Yao and his World of Warcraft stories.
The above comes from here. I really don't read your posts from this thread or the noted thread above any differently. I read it as Wafer was being a jerk, but it's management's fault that they could not deal with it. Part of being a good sports manager/coach is dealing with chemistry issues on a team. They obviously decided it was best for the team not to pursue Wafer. I still believe this to be due what was seen and even more importantly, what was not seen by the public. If they felt Wafer was a distraction, I don't have a problem with that. Apparently no other NBA team deemed him worthy of a contract either.
The organization realizes the situation players are in, and they plan around that accordingly, it is why I think Tracy comes back early, plays well and is traded by the deadline..... Von got himself a HUGE upgrade by playing well in Houston last year.....and he can probably buy himself out next off season if he wants to, but even if he doesn't.....2 years......and he will only be 26......just coming into his prime. DD
Melo and Pippen are in different class than Wafer, so maybe they have a little wiggle room there to get away something here and there. Wafer doesn't have the talent of a Carmelo Anthony, but "Melo" or not I don't want guys like this on the Rockets squad. We know by Adelmans previous comments that Wafers bad attitude had been a recurring theme. He obviously did not grow out of this over the course of the season, even though this was his 4th team. Then he let's this creep up again at the worst possible time. I think the front office finally had enough of all that had been going on with Von.
Von Wafer went for the money. Many people would do the same and I wish him luck. This also tells me that he doesn't have the type of mentality I was hoping he would have. He's going to play for an Italian team, leaving the NBA...to further his career? Look...who knows how long the window of opportunity stays open. He is taking the money while he can and will try to come back to the NBA later.
Yep, so true. I always say you replace talent lost especially on a team that isn't super talented already. I like chase, taylor not so much, but asking them as 2nd rd picks to perform like that is asking a lot. I guess we will see and congrats to wafer for getting a sweet deal. Anthony Parker went to europe and came back better, maybe wafer will get even better overseas.
I wish to deviate from talking about TMac r8 now. I was saying why can't we stockpile talent at the spot C. One veteran and one prospect whom we can trade would be adequate.
Exactly, I said it would be bad management to hold it against them.....you just use it to teach and move on...which they did. DD
Well that's that, the Rockets clearly didn't show any interest in him and probably no other team (or they showed but what they offered wasn't suitable enough for Wafer) so he's heading to Greece. It's a great country for basketball, I think he'll score about 20-25 ppg.
i really dont see how being greety deserves a threat i bet the numbers finacially were just about the same. he saw an opportunity and didnt look back into what made him get the big bucks but one day he'll look back and wounder that he could have been part of the NBA finals. i really would appriciate all the von love to stop after all he did dump us. lets give mccants a nice deal and bring him to do what von was suppose too. ddakota yes i do believe he can be replaced by mr mccans in every aspect along side a reenergized T-MAC. T-MAC +AFFER = disaster
This team scored 98ppg which is .5 more than they did wwhen jvg was coaching. I think adelman is a very good coach especially offensive, but systems only do so much. I'm sure chuck hayes can execute every part of the offense except put the ball in the basket. That's the hard part. When you have 1 guy (brooks) who can get his own shot basically at anytime, then there will be issues.
While I don't think Von is an irreplaceable asset (athletic bench gunner), I do have a problem with Morey not getting some kind of compensation for the organization. Sign and trade for a similar player or to a team that can absorb his contract in exchange for a pick. I have a hard time believing that Von Wafer isn't worth at least a second rounder.
At this point last year, Wafer was the unproven one. I'm looking for one of the rookies, if not both to show their value this year. Actually it would make less sense if we drafted the two guards and resigned Wafer.
I don't agree with this, it's not like Wafer is playing for another team in the NBA. He's going oversees, because nobody in the NBA wanted to pay him that type of money. It takes three sides to complete this type of deal. Wafer, the rockets, and the third team would all have to agree to the contract, and I don't think the Rockets would go over the luxury tax just so we can get a second rounder. Especially since we can just buy it on draft night. Wafer was like a walk on to make this team last year; we didn't even waste a pick on him.
