1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

[Yahoo!] Rockets, Wizards, Knicks Discuss 3-Way Deal

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by htown11, Feb 10, 2010.

  1. ctry2582

    ctry2582 Member

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2003
    Messages:
    1,227
    Likes Received:
    27
    Trust me, I like Jamison. I live in the Bay Area, and watched him since he played for GSW.

    The problem with tackling on Jamison, is, he doesn't help solve our size issue at the C spot. So now the Rockets are cash strapped, cap lowering, and still have nobody to help out Chuck this year, or, Yao next
     
  2. CJLarson

    CJLarson Member

    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2009
    Messages:
    3,783
    Likes Received:
    208
    Ok I know that, but who is better IYO, Jamison or Scola?
    Also I'm looking at the deal as we get Haywood in it as well. That certainly solves a Center issue.
     
  3. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2008
    Messages:
    47,503
    Likes Received:
    19,629
    I would hate HATE to lose Landry and the only reason I threw him in the deal was because maybe they wouldn't want Scola.

    Any Gm would trade Scola for Jamison.
     
  4. ctry2582

    ctry2582 Member

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2003
    Messages:
    1,227
    Likes Received:
    27
    A healthy Yao and if we had a scoring 2, I'd take Jamison over Scola.

    But since Yao is always injured, and we don't have a scoring 2, I'd keep Scola.

    Scola is durable, and is cheaper.

    Scola, IMO, could be traded for more than Jamison and Co.

    If anything, we trade Scola to get younger.
     
  5. towW

    towW Member

    Joined:
    Aug 23, 2008
    Messages:
    748
    Likes Received:
    8
    But scoring is our main problem Jamison over Scola imo.
     
  6. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2008
    Messages:
    47,503
    Likes Received:
    19,629
    Scola is undersized face it. You really think the Wizards would trade Jamison for Scola?

    Then why would you expect for him? You over value Scola.
     
  7. CJLarson

    CJLarson Member

    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2009
    Messages:
    3,783
    Likes Received:
    208
    Houston gets: Haywood, Butler, Jamison
    Washington gets: McGrady, Scola, Cook (All expiring)
    Throw in a couple future picks maybe??
     
  8. rockets934life

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2007
    Messages:
    15,312
    Likes Received:
    249
    Actually, looking at the numbers Scola avgs only 5 points less per game while playing 8 less minutes and 5 fewer shots per game. Everything else is pretty equal and while I agree Jamison over Scola, it is not the no-brainer I initial thought.
     
    #748 rockets934life, Feb 12, 2010
    Last edited: Feb 12, 2010
  9. liamrock

    liamrock Member

    Joined:
    May 23, 2003
    Messages:
    1,285
    Likes Received:
    28
    Guys, my guess is that the Rockets make a smaller deal to get below the luxury tax and wait for TMac's contract to expire. I bet Boston is able to get Butler and Jamison and they might have a bit of a revival, but they will be hating life for the long term with all of those contracts.

    In Morey I trust!!!
     
  10. ROXTXIA

    ROXTXIA Member

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2000
    Messages:
    20,881
    Likes Received:
    12,975
    Ric Bucher just said the Boston and Washington deal is kaput.
     
  11. studogg

    studogg Member

    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2002
    Messages:
    6,056
    Likes Received:
    2,658
    I do believe that Morey would be fine with this, but I believe that there are enough offers out there that we will be able to move McGrady. However, the resulting trade, may be ny expiring's and getting below the lux tax. in essence, exactly what you said.
     
  12. Wack-T-713

    Wack-T-713 Member

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2009
    Messages:
    130
    Likes Received:
    1
    why in German?
    you mean broken?
     
  13. CJLarson

    CJLarson Member

    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2009
    Messages:
    3,783
    Likes Received:
    208
    Washington gets: Harrington, Scola, Mobley
    Houston gets: Butler, Haywood, Jamison
    New York gets: McGrady
    BAM! It is a lot of money though...
     
  14. BimaThug

    BimaThug Resident Capologist
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 24, 1999
    Messages:
    8,433
    Likes Received:
    5,222
    Jamison is the better player RIGHT NOW. But you are sadly mistaken if you think that "any GM" would take Jamison over Scola. Maybe for equal money for one year. But the NBA doesn't work that way.

    2009-10:
    Antawn Jamison - 33 years old - $11.6M
    Luis Scola - 29 years old - $3.3M

    2010-11:
    Antawn Jamison - 34 years old - $13.4M
    Luis Scola - 30 years old - ~$6-7M, tops (remember, he's a RESTRICTED free agent this summer, and the Rockets can defintely "chill the bidding" on him)

    2011-12:
    Antawn Jamison - 35 years old - $15.1M
    Luis Scola - 31 years old - ~$7-8M, tops

    Frankly, if I'm "most GMs", I'll take the slightly less productive player at the DRASTICALLY reduced price.

    But maybe that's just me.
     
  15. ctry2582

    ctry2582 Member

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2003
    Messages:
    1,227
    Likes Received:
    27
    Not just you, but me too.
     
  16. Sooner423

    Sooner423 Member

    Joined:
    May 17, 2002
    Messages:
    5,643
    Likes Received:
    1,828
    Yeah, there's no doubt Scola's the better value. He'd be a nice piece in a Bosh SnT too.
     
  17. CJLarson

    CJLarson Member

    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2009
    Messages:
    3,783
    Likes Received:
    208
    I didn't look at Jamison's contract over the years. I didn't know it would increase both years remaining on it. Scola is definitely the better "value" right now. Jamison is the better overall player. Is it worth it?? Do you feel we would have a chance to win a championship with a lineup of:

    Brooks/Lowry
    Butler/Budinger
    Ariza/Battier
    Jamison/Landry
    Yao/Haywood

    I don't know about you, but that looks like a damn good lineup to me (considering we resign Haywood and Lowry).

    Is it worth it?
     
  18. BimaThug

    BimaThug Resident Capologist
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 24, 1999
    Messages:
    8,433
    Likes Received:
    5,222
    No, it's not worth it. The Rockets probably wouldn't be able to afford to re-sign Lowry or Haywood with the salary commitments to Jamison and Butler next year. Not unless you expect Les Alexander to pay $90-100M for his roster next season. Personally, I don't.
     
  19. towW

    towW Member

    Joined:
    Aug 23, 2008
    Messages:
    748
    Likes Received:
    8
    You got us there. In 2011-12 that's 3-4 mill away what Bosh will command and he's on the rise. If Jamison was a little younger and could hold up his near double-double(20pts,8.8rebs) stats next to Yao. He would have been a good Bosh-like pickup with 3pt range.
     
  20. CJLarson

    CJLarson Member

    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2009
    Messages:
    3,783
    Likes Received:
    208
    If a trade like the one I mentioned was to happen....I think Battier would have to be shipped out for an expiring contract and a draft pick. That takes a little more money off the books.
     

Share This Page