[Yahoo] Rockets guard Spanoulis could be headed back to Greece

Good Riddance? Why? The guy has hardly gotten a chance to play and was undertadably frustrated with that? Would you rather have a player who is just happy to be getting his paycheck?

Give me a guy who cares every day of the week......and you are willing to say Good Riddance?

For what, exactly?

I have not seen anyone saying he would be a superstar, but there are those of us (including me) who see something in the way he plays that warrants a realistic look at PG.

If he sucks with consistent playing time.....then by all means let him go, but he is on a cheap contract, plays a position the Rockets are VERY weak at, and had a personality clash with the coach which hurt his development?

Why not let the new coach come in and see if he can contribute before saying "Good riddance"?

I can understand people tired of all the posts about him, but that is not a reason to just get rid of him, IMO.

DD

 

VSpan is exactly the type of player Houston needs: a guard who can handle the ball, penetrate, and isn't afraid to be vocal.


I supported JVG is his coaching decisions, but I have to question why Snyder and VSpan didn't get minutes (and playoff experience) against a more athletic, hustling Utah team.


Why was the Houston bench so ineffective? Because JVG didn't invest anytime in helping them develop their game.


When the playoffs came around, when Houston needed contribution from the bench, they were ill-prepared to make an impact.

 

I haven't read through this whole thread so pardon me if this has been mentioned already.

It seemed like not that long ago foreign players were excited about the opportunity to play in the NBA even if it meant less money and sitting on the bench but now you have top players not interested in coming here or only playing for a contender, getting playing time and at least the same amount of money. The impression of the NBA as the premier basketball league might be fading in the minds of many foreign players as they feel they can compete at as high a level in their own countries. I'm wondering if this has to do with the failure of US Olympic and World Championship teams to dominate as they once did so the aura of invincibility is gone from US basketball.

 

No doubt, also don't forget that they are closer to their home countries in many cases, and play far fewer games for the money.

The NBA is losing some of it's appeal.

DD

 

I was listening to one of the announcers for the Cleveland and Detroit game talk about how Joe Dumars got with Flip and discussed how this year the regular season should all be about preparing for the playoffs. They said last year they won 63 games but what good do it do them They still didn't make he pwhen they eliminated. This year they would try to win every game but more importantly they would focus playing their roster experience so they would be prepared to contribute in the playoffs. Jason Maxiel is a perfect example of that. And how they worked Webber in is another. You never hear Rasheed or Chauncy or Rich saying, "It's on me!" On the contrary when Detroit was courting Webber Hamilton gave him a call and this is team is not about the individuals but about winning Van Gundy's philosophy was let me go with what I know and don't take any risk for any game.

 

you are right on the money!

I remember when the US was a country that everyone back in europe wanted to see, live in, etc

People really got scarred because of the war and talking about the game, particullary the US basketball team, during the 80s and early 90s the US was considered unbeatable...nowdays is just like any other national team, none is really taking the US serious...

I think the draft rules and a lot of early age coaching had a big impact on the last 10 years of US basketball....it really turned into an all entertainment sport

 

The only thing that really seperates the NBA from these other leagues is the money, and with the cap on incomming players, the money some of these foreign players can earn over there is about the same.

The NBA is losing it's advantage in this regard, if money is the same...all bets are off.

DD

 

I remember Divac, Radja, Kukoc and Petrovic were more interested in playing on a higher level then they did in their own country. I've seen some old videos with them talking about that. But yea, money is almost the same nowdays

 

The gap is a lot widerthan you think - that is why your player evalutions are so off.

Tell me why then that a bunch of NBA rejects manage to go over there and dominate. Why is Trajan Langdon a superstar in Euroope but a wash out in the real league. Mike Batiste? Actually the best example is Pete Mickael. the guy could not make the very, absolute, end of the Rockets bench, yet he becomes the leading scorer in the entire Spanish first division - so you're teling me the talent is very close?

It's just not.

 

Sam, I think you are missing what we are talking about. It is not a talent discussion, but rather one of whether or not all the better players over there are determined to come over to the NBA.

The gap I am referring to is the allure of the NBA, if the money is equal and the games are fewer, it might make far fewer foreign players interested in coming to the NBA.

That is what we were talking about........

Please tell me you read the whole thread, or are you just coming in here looking to argue with me,.....you silly boy !

DD

 

You pretty clearly said that the only thing that separates the NBA from the rest of the leagues was money. It's a lot more than that. THat's why a guy like Spanoulis was unable to cut it and now wants to step back down to the minor leagues.

 

Read what I was replying to, we are talking about the difference in coming to the NBA.......

Just 3 posts above the one you replied to

Read....Sam....read !!

DD

 

I read exactly what you said, and the point still stands.

 

Well thank you so much for telling us that the Euro leagues are not as good in talent as the NBA.....

Even though no one was saying that, we do appreciate that HUGE nugget, I hope you didn't break a corpusle when coming to that conclusion.

Now, if you would care to join the discussion about whether foreign players are all that excited about joining the NBA anymore...feel free.

DD

 

Seems like exactly what you said in this post.

 

OWNED.

 

Nike, we were talking about the allure of coming to the NBA, if you just read that one post I can see where it could get confusing but if you read the thread and follow the conversation, you would clearly see that we were talking about the money and the allure of the NBA.

It is just another case of my stalkers coming in for a little case of get DaDakota and not reading the whole thread....just trying to come in to bash DD......

Typical and weak....

Thanks for the massive input you are really bringing the boards IQ and this thread discussion to new heights.

I am gonna have to break off a piece of that olive branch and begin beating the JVG nuthuggers back into reality.

DD

 

stop beating off to your own image for a second. You post in this particular forum (GARM) probably more than anybody else. You repeat the same points over and over and over again to anybody who will hear it -- or nobody in particular. Then when people respond you say they're stalking you.

DaDakota - you have willingly made yourself the center of attention on this BBS - much to the chagrin of a lot of people, myself included.

When people call you out on the points you have made, again, again, again, again, again, you have very little liberty to accuse them of stalking you.

 

Sam,

When I am in the middle of a good reasonable discussion and you come in and misread the discussion as you are KNOWN to do, it is pretty clear that you are looking for my posts.

I have not WILLINGLY done anything, I am a Rockets fan who enjoys talking about my favorite team.

I am getting tired of whiny people who just come around because they don't agree with my opinions or feel I post too much. I enjoy talking about my favorite team and it's players.

Put me on ignore......if my posts bother you so much.

I can see how you misread the conversation in this thread, and I CALMLY explained it to you.......

And if you had bothered to read the few posts prior to mine you would have understood the conversation.

But you are being accused of stalking because that is EXACTLY what you are doing.

DD

 

i generally don't like reading arguments between posters. but i gotta say, sam & dadakota, you two are entertaining.