[Yahoo] Rockets don't want McGrady back, continue to try to trade him

When he gets dealt, I'd imagine part of our compensation would include a top 5 pick....Now, it also makes sense that we'd send that pick out and that there would be at least 3 teams involved.

 

just trade the guy already so he can play.

morey and adelman are seriously handling this wrong. they keep telling tmac doesnt look good enough when all along they dont have any plans on letting him play.

no marquee FAs are ever gonna come over to houston after this.

 

I could see the Rockets taking a long-term contract that was a fraction of McGrady's salary for a player they were interested in plus expirings as filler. If it was the right player that would work for us and buy the other team more cap space next summer.

 

Trevor on two legs cant dribble sted. Hes a question mark at the end of the game....hes scary....period. HE CANT EXECUTE. He doesnt know what hes doing.....HE CANT DRIBBLE THE BALL STED, teams know this. Hes a hindrance in crunch time....Is Tracy? Tracy isnt gonna make a stupid scared play at the end of the game sted. He has experience. Trevor isnt shooting that well...period. Youve seen the treads havent you?? Sted???
you losing....period

 

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And how do I know? Because if Morey and Adelman refuses to play him, then he's no good to this team anymore. If he can actually contribute to this team, I'm sure Morey and Adelman are smarter than any of us to make the common sense decision to play him.[/QUOTE]

So now you know why Morey and Adelman don't want to play him? You must be part of he team since you have so much inside information.

 

great point....lose/lose....period.

 

Morey tried that in this year's draft. He was turned down. McGrady's trade value isn't that high.

 

So you're saying that Ariza is averaging 3 more points on two legs than McGrady did on one leg....is that not doing BETTER?

In case you don't know what you had just said:

Ariza + 2 legs + 18 ppg < McGrady + 1 leg + 15 ppg

Hahhaha. I hope you're young there's still time for you to get an education in school.

Wait I'm sorry...I mistook your post. I didn't know we were doing an average per LEG. If that's what you were meaning, then yes, McGrady's 15 points per leg is DEFINITELY higher than Ariza's 9 points per leg.

Thanks for the laugh.

 

Agreed.....cant trade anyone that hasnt been on the court....rick isnt making smart moves...period.

 

worzel,

What do you think we'll end up with for Tracy ?

 

I am all for trading the guy but only if the trade is reasonable a best. (i mean 23 million in expiring contracts or less but with players that add to our team)

We are not going to trade McGrady just so that he can play. If he wants to play he can always resign some money to get a buyout and sign for another team for a minium offer for the rest of the season.

I am all for trading mcgrady for a good player, not great, just able to contribute with something, on a reasonable contract a small bad contract and the rest on expiring. Lets say a playable player around 6 millions, a bad contract around 3 millions and 11 millions in expirings.

 

How is letting a guy coming back from injury play a slap in the face? Having the organization that you play for saying that you are healthy when you clearly are not is a slap in the face. I admit that I am a McGrady fan, but I'm not so ignorant as to say that he handled every situation properly last year, especially with the announcement regarding the microfracture surgery. But for everyone that keeps placing all of the blame on T-Mac, realize that there is blame to go all around. The Rockets were wrong to insist that he play through an injury that clearly was not getting better by him playing. And the Rockets are wrong for how they are handling this situation. I want to see T-Mac suit up for the Rockets again (this year & beyond) but if the organization has no interest in him playing here, especially this year, then just be up front about it. Be up front with T-Mac and be up front with the fans of the organization. Because honestly, at this point, it seems more personal than about his ability to help this team win, and not only is that not gonna go over well with the current personnel but it certainly will not go over well with free agents as the consider possible destinations to sign...It will be vey interesting to see how they handle Yao's situation next year...Will be very telling about the organization & this regime.

 

A player coming off Micro-Fracture Surgery who hasn't played and is rumored to be at odds with the coach and the team will not get an value back to this damn club. He needs to play good Basketball and the Rockets needs to send a message subtly that he has earned respect back form everyone.

If Tracy does not play we will not be able to trade him. We need this man to play before the trade deadline.

Now I don't believe Adelman is against Tracy playing for the team. I believe drama in Houston makes it easier for bloggers to have content to write about.

Our team is a .500 team, plain and simple. We are a team that on any given night can beat the best team in the league. But can we beat them 4 out of 7 times? NO!

This team has played much better than I ever expected, but if you think this team can win without a star, you are kidding yourself.

 

its all karma imo

tmac didnt want to discuss his surgery with the team and now the team is not letting him play in his contract year

wow

 

They won't trade him just to get rid of him. Morey will get a talent as part of the trade with new bad/long contracts.

 

And that's why I used stats from last year. McGrady has no stats to compare Ariza to this year. However since you're thinking that Ariza is a much better player than McGrady, he should be averaging a lot more than just 3 points a game over a one legged player.

 

sted...u losing....period. You suck if you compete at the same level as a hurt player....You dont understand that??? Its all about points sted?? Trevor cant do much. As a scorer (which he isnt), hes far from dynamic, he looks confused, and SCARED. He cant dribble the ball sted....that means he cant move on the court....and he doesnt knock down the open jumper at a high %. But wait, then what......? He puts it on the floor to slash....what happens???? At least tracy would get a "star call" or something on those plays where trevor gets stripped. At least Tracy would have the awareness to at least throw the ball up to get that "star call". Hes going to the line sted. Those are points...not turnovers...period. U dont know much bout this game do you? Id take tracy avg. 17 ppg over trevor with 30 ppg...INTANGABLES STED. Tracy has them...one leg or not...period.

 

Tmac per on one leg last year is better than ariza's per this year. 16.2 vs 14.2

 

I love Adelman and Morey but I really think they're royally fumbling this matter. I realize their pulse for the team is much better than mine, but i've said this before and I'll say it again: shelving him, or "Marburying" him, doesn't help his trade value. If you intend on trading him you absolutely have to play him (unless, that is, you're content with dealing him for a Sam Dalembert or Eddy Curry type player).

The parallels between the situation Marbury was in last year and the direction this McGrady saga is headed in are undeniable. Teams will be reluctant to trade for a player making $20M+. Why? For starters, matching salaries in a mutually beneficial deal is quite difficult, and teams don't know which version of said player they're getting because they haven't seen them play. Example? Again, the Marbury situation -- he was terrible last year. Teams likely suspected that. Whenever both parties were unable to get on the same page and actually get him out the court, it left a lot to be desired in terms of whether or not he could play anymore. Now, i'm not saying I think McGrady can't play anymore -- far from it, in fact. All i'm saying is microfracture surgery is a possible career killer and until teams see McGrady out on the court showing he's healthy and showing he can play, his value is going to remain just that of an expiring contract.

When a player's value is just that of an expiring contract, guess what? He's an option for a team like the Knicks that doesn't care about being competitive. A team like that who possesses the necessary pieces to execute a trade and that doesn't care about how the season plays out. Do you REALLY want to see him get dealt for an Eddy Curry type player? I know I don't.

Hypothetically speaking, let's pretend we integrated him back into the rotation. He's out there moving around well, his body looks healthy, he's out there impressing everybody with his incredible court vision and knack for making plays and all those things that make him a special player. Guess what? Teams in NBA purgatory like Washington, GS, Chicago, Indiana, etc. that are OKAY but certainly not a serious threat are going to see that and think, "Okay, we could deal for him and not sacrifice the season. In fact, maybe he'll even make us better." That's the type of scenario that showcasing him for a trade creates.

Now, look....i'm not naive. I realize his checkered history and diva-like status. I don't think he has the potential to implode the team and erase the progress we've made but I realize that's not my decision to make. I just find it hard to believe that a GREAT coach like Adelman is unable to find a way to make this work. That predicament is further emphasized in my mind whenever I watch Trevor Ariza going 7-20 every night, dribbling the ball off his foot and attempting to do ALL the things McGrady can naturally do and has done his entire career. It's puzzling and I'll support whatever decision we make. I just really think we're handling this poorly, that's all.

 

He's an expiring contract but is on the books for $23M. Even if he can still play contenders aren't gutting their team for McGrady. So it doesn't matter if he plays or not.

In one of Clutch's radio appearances in the last few weeks. Clutch said something along the lines of, the best the Rockets might be abe to do, is a deal to get under luxury tax. Whatever they get back might be disappointing to most.