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[Yahoo] Rockets don't want McGrady back, continue to try to trade him

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by rockets934life, Dec 3, 2009.

  1. BMoney

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    Sorry, explain why Martin from the Kings wouldn't be an option?
     
  2. DaDakota

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    Clutch certainly did, but if you look back to my thread before the season, DaDaCayce predicted exactly what would happen.

    And this kind of GARBAGE is why he needs to go......he cares more about himself then he does about shutting up, working hard, and PROVING he belongs on the court.

    And he clearly doesn't realize they are not "HIS GUYS' any more......Tmac has been Isoed !

    DD
     
  3. t_mac1

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    they don't like tmac. they don't want tmac around. those are perfectly legitimate reasons to me. this is beyond basketball now. morey and adelman have mastered the PR game, while tmac hasn't.

    but it's obvious the rift b/t tmac and management is a wrap.
     
  4. DaDakota

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    Tmac brought it all on himself, he has no one else to blame but the man in the mirror.

    DD
     
  5. Carl Herrera

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    I'm pretty sure the Rockets told him what they said publicly: they'll play him if and only if they feel he can help the team. Right now, they just don't see enough to convince them he'll be a positive on the court to justify messing up minutes for the guys who are already playing well. It just doesn't compute with him because he cannot understand how his mere superstar presence won't help the team and so he assumes there's some conspiracy and they are not telling him about it.
     
  6. aggie87

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    It really amazes me how many people actually beleive this writer for yahoo, and think he knows more than the hardcore fan base on clutchfans, Microfracture surgery is very difficult to recover from and even the doctors said the new cartlidge wont be as flexible as the natural cartlidge, he wants a contract so he wants to work his way back into the lineup and rick doesnt want to lose games so he wants tmac to continue to train
     
  7. durvasa

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    If I was in his shoes, I'd be frustrated too. But him constantly going public about this isn't going to compel the Rockets to talk to him. Quite the opposite.
     
  8. t_mac1

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    how do you know he hasn't proven it in practice? if you're going to believe clutch's source, you should also believe that adelman doesn't want to play tmac, healthy or not. so even if he does prove anything in practice, it wouldn't matter. he would still ride the pine.

    i don't think there's much ado with his teammates. tmac has been seen being extremely chummy with the guys. the real problem is tracy and management.

    i just wish this can be resolved soon b/c the more that leaks out, both sides won't benefit.
     
  9. Carl Herrera

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    There, I fixed it for you.
     
  10. t_mac1

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    adelman: "tracy, you're just not better than brian cook or jermaine taylor to be even activated. sorry tracy, you have to prove you're better than those 2 guys. you cannot help us do anything positively on the court."
     
  11. t_mac1

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    tmac has definitely acted like a douche publicly last year. there's no denying that. however, i feel his frustration this year is valid.

    clutch's source continues to be proven accurate as more days go by.
     
  12. DaDakota

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    Exactly, he has not accepted that he is not the player he once was, and the Rockets are saying, get back to that level, and we will play you.

    Tracy is just a big whiny baby......

    DD
     
  13. bigreg

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    There are no guarantees in the long run. You play to win now!!! Then if your talent is good enough, you can continue to win in the longterm and make tweaks as necessary. To plan for the long term without playing for immediate success, is a blueprint for disaster. Again, I know it is a different sport, but look at the Texans. For all of there moves, for long term success, they do nothing in the present but lose. Tomorrow is not promised. You play to WIN TODAY!!!
     
  14. DaDakota

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    It has been accurate to anyone that would take a mature look at it FOR MONTHS !!!

    DD
     
  15. t_mac1

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    so you knew for months adelman would not play tmac even if he's 100%? such a prophet DD
     
  16. Carl Herrera

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    The difference is this: the "rotation player" you would get in the trade is hopefully one that you plan on keeping for years. So, it's worth investing the early time meshing him in with the rest of the crew chemistry-wise. It's for the same reason that Adelman is playing guys like David Andersen, giving shots to Trevor Ariza, playing Battier when he's not 100%, etc. These are guys they are most likely intending to keep for years to come (unless a good trade comes along) so it's worth the investment of minutes to work them individually and together to help them learn.

    Investing minutes in a guy whom you think will probably get traded in a couple of weeks or a couple of months is a whole different animal. You might still want to do it, but the motivations are different.
     
  17. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    That's a hilarious post and a great point.

    Shouldn't t-mac be activated if he can play better than those 2 guys?

    I think it's obvious T-mac will not wear a Rockets uniform again. I think it's kinda weird that the Rockets just don't tell him that - "you aren't wanted here, don't bother showing up for practice."

    It's only going to make the situation more ugly. I think Morey and Adelman are not handling this well - they should be honest with Tracy. For all his issues and drama, he worked really hard to get back into playing shape and is doing the right things. Every man, whatever his flaws, deserves to be treated honestly.

    What the Rockets are doing is dishonest - saying he is not ready and when insiders are saying the real reason is that he's not wanted back.
     
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    What's ironic about this is that the Rockets org felt the same way last year when Tracy was in and out.

    Paybacks a b****
     
  19. Carl Herrera

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    The difference is Cook and Taylor won't b**** about only playing 3 minutes of garbage time. The other difference is playing Cook and Taylor 3 minutes won't cost $220K. Is it worth $220K a game, or $18 million a year, if all McGrady can bring is Brian Cook/Jermain Taylor level of play in his current status?
     
  20. Clutch34

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    If Tracy replaces Brian Cook or JT on the active roster, does this mean Rockets won't collect on the insurance (on a per game bases) even if he doesn't play?

    Maybe if we find out how many games it will take to recover 80% (I believe is the max) of Tracy's salary then (assuming he is not traded) we will probably know when his first game back will be??? :)
     

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