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[Yahoo] Rockets don't want McGrady back, continue to try to trade him

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by rockets934life, Dec 3, 2009.

  1. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Everything else you said was right, but if Tmac expires we only get about $7 million of cap space because we are already way over it.

    That is why they need to trade him or else all you get for that massive contract is about 1/3rd the asset value.

    Even if you get a poison pill contract and a $10 million player, you are still ahead because you get the $10 million player instead of one that is only worth $7.

    DD
     
  2. Pete the Cheat

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    honestly, what team would be willing to part with picks for a 1 year rental like t-mac?
    at least artest was a known commodity. t-mac at this point simply remains an X-factor.

    to me Charlotte seems to be the most intriguing trading partner. they are in financial trouble, so a contract like t-mac's because especially enticing. and they have an over abundance of players at positions of need for this team which they might under value given their current record.

    Chandler and Gerald Wallace are their two most expensive players, and together that would match with a 2-1 deal. and tell me that wouldn't look good coming in? obviously we would need to sweeten the pot, but just look down the Charlotte roster: (from most expensive to least)

    T. Chandler (1 yr)
    G Wallace (3 yr)
    B Diaw (2 yr)
    S Jackson (3 yr - trade restr.)
    N Mohammed (1 yr)
    D Diop (3 yr)
    R Felton (exp)

    that's a lot of interchangeable parts
     
  3. Easy

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    I have no problem for them not playing him if they think that he is not ready to contribute positively. That's was what I wanted to believe. I am not one of the people who yell "play TMac." If he's not ready, he's not ready.

    What bothers me is what the insiders have been saying. It is more than (or maybe even not) a basketball decision. It is mostly about TMac's relationship with the management.
     
  4. Dubious

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    If the Rockets keep collecting insurance money as long as Tmac is sitting, then prolonging his return as long as possible makes the most economic sense. The insurance money would keep them at a net 0: insurance money in, Tracy's salary out.( If) the moment you let him play the insurance stops, the Rockets are on the hook for the top paid player in the NBA but he will only contribute like the 6th or 7th man on the roster. That's a huge economic loss at a time when every team's finances are strained.

    Plus the chemistry issues of how a player who needs to be The Man would fit with a selfless effort, running team. Even if he can still be Tmac it could just kill this team's concept.
     
  5. mustang98

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    Poor defense on Roy's GW 3ptr!! Are you kidding me? Roy was like 10 feet behind the 3 point line and still hit a turn around 3 point shot. That wasn't poor defense, it was a lucky shot. :rolleyes:
     
  6. TheFreak

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    And the defense?
     
  7. Pocket Rockets

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    you did see how tracy didn't switch to cover roy, thus giving roy the open look (even if it was from 35 ft out)
     
  8. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    It had nothing to do with T-mac being ready or not. According to the sources, the Rockets don't want him back so it's pointless for him to practice with the team.

    They should just tell him that he's done. I am sure Morey will find a way to trade him before the deadline.
     
  9. opticon

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    I forgot about us being over the cap.
     
  10. DwangBoy

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    this is business first.. so i'm sure the rockets are saving money by not playing Tmac... other than that, there would be no reason to sit him if he's ready... at least see how he fits in with the lineup..
     
  11. number22

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    unless you've moved on and he's no longer in the plans now or future.
     
  12. Easy

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    McGrady doesn't seem to be aware of that.
     
  13. DaDakota

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    He knows, he just doesn't like it, because it is in a contract year and it is effecting his ability to get his next contract.

    Thus the whole rub.

    DD
     
  14. xiki

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    How many superstars will take the Wolves' $? Winning, size of contract, and team are all factors. Clips can't spend their $s on the same guys who would play for less in the same bldg. Same with Nets v Knicks.

    Money talks. It doesn't always monologue, however.
     
  15. DaDakota

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    I am still waiting on Leeb to give me that LONG LIST of superstar players that have switched teams since Shaq.

    The way to get superstars is through trade or development.

    DD
     
  16. Easy

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    If he knows, then getting traded to a team that needs him is his best chance of getting a good contract. He is really dumb to lower his trade value by fussing with the management.
     
  17. DaDakota

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    Tmac dumb?

    Perhaps.

    He has not made many smart decisions so I guess if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck it is a duck.

    DD
     
  18. RMGEEGEE

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    I've been thinking..
    Trading TMac wouldn't help matters in the end if you really think about it..
    Because his contract is so big, we would either have to get a superstar and a filler... Or a lot of role players.
    If people are saying "don't put TMac in because he'll hinder development or ruin chemistry", well, so will plugging in whoever we trade him for.
    TMac has the advantage in this case, because the chemistry curve is a lot smaller. He's been around the team and has played with a lot of them before.

    And again.. the same ol' argument can be added.. His contract is off the books after this year.. He could come back strong.. blah blah. You all know the rest.

    Also I think he's behaved ever since the "arguments" and target date discussions. We haven't really heard anything besides speculation.
    I think he decided to do the best thing and keep his mouth shut.
     
  19. TMac4Life#1

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    Rockets are making a mistake....but if they Trade him whcih i believe they won't and if they do its dumb they just might trade him back to the east. Having him stay in the west he is going to burn them
     
  20. OldSchool34

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    Tmac can't burn anyone except himself.
     

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