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[Yahoo] Rockets don't want McGrady back, continue to try to trade him

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by rockets934life, Dec 3, 2009.

  1. t_mac1

    t_mac1 Member

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    i don't think adelman nor morey reads this board. it's a wrap. let it go.

    if tracy returns to the team, it's for the team and tmac to audition him to the next team.

    rockets don't want him; tracy doesn't want to be here. why pursue a relationship that isn't wanted by both sides?

    we have a fun team to watch. let's hope tmac does indeed play again so we can net an impact player that can help the team next year when yao returns.

    both sides are at fault here, but tmac and his loudmouth made himself an easy target. but let go. :grin:
     
  2. durvasa

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    I was assuming in my post that the insiders here are telling the truth and that the Rockets are not interested in playing McGrady even if he is "ready".
     
  3. durvasa

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    Let's break down the Rockets offense along four factors: (1) efficiency from the field, (2) turnovers, (3) offensive rebounding, and (4) free throws.

    They are ranked (the lower the team ranking, the better):

    (1) 14th
    (2) 17th
    (3) 3rd
    (4) 26th

    According to recent analysis by hoop numbers, this is how McGrady likely impacts each of these four factors over the last 3 seasons (the higher the percentile ranking, the better):

    http://hoopnumbers.com/allAnalysisView?analysis=fourFactorsRAPM&year=2009_multi_year_off

    (1) +0.11% (79th percentile)
    (2) -1.7% (98th percentile)
    (3) -0.87% (34th percentile)
    (4) +0.108 (63rd percentile)

    So, yeah, I think he could help. He'll improve the Rockets half-court offense by generating higher quality field goal attempts and he'll help reduce the turnovers. He's not adept at running the wings in transition, but then neither is Battier. What McGrady can potentially do well is make the outlet pass, run a quick early-offense pick and roll, or shoot transition 3s as a trailer.
     
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  4. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    I just wish Morey would come out and say it. Send T-mac home...it's pathetic watching him practice with the team and sit on the bench when he's not going to get a chance to play.
     
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  5. Hball

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    The media should record the Rockets practice, so everyone could actually see if he's ready or not.
     
  6. larsv8

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    I don't even see how its any argument Durvasa. The Rockets are literally playing Ariza the exact some way as McGrady, and he is far worse at it than Tmac was. To be fair, Ariza brings more transition and defense, but offensively I am not convinced what Trevor brings is a positive.
     
  7. ibm

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    good point (and it can only happen when he's healthy and ready).

    but you don't need all the numbers above to make your case. :grin: i know you like to use numbers in bball talks, and that's good. you're a unique member, but appear to be a little... err ... bookish. when i try to picture you, i see a post-doc student at rice. :cool:
     
  8. t_mac1

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    leeb, didn't your sources say tracy would be ready for opening night? and now your sources say he can't even play 10 minutes.

    i think your sources aren't very accurate.
     
  9. Possum

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    Do you watch practice? Have you actually seen TMAC practice? Do you know more than everyone ese here about whether TMAC is gameready? :rolleyes: This board is so full of this crap its hard to read anymore. Sad!
     
  10. the_hustler

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    5 Star thread . for once i saw a lot of sanity in assessing the McGrady situation. thanks to durvasa, Leeb and others. Having a lot of fun reading this. this is the way the board shld be.

    kudos.

    :)
     
  11. RMGEEGEE

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    He's talking about Morey..
     
  12. ROXTXIA

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    This isn't about a personal grudge, it isn't about vendettas (not "vendetta's"). A "vendetta" would just be shooting the team in the foot. Morey and Adelman want to move in another direction. Tracy is not the future of the team. Nor is he even the "now".

    Happens all the time. Stevie Franchise was Rudy's boy (Rudy wasn't much of a disciplinarian, so the inmates ran the asylum). Rudy was let go. JVG was hired. He and Steve clashed. Good-bye, Steve. Hello, Tracy. JVG tried his same hard-nosed bit with Tracy, didn't work, JVG can't coach offense anyway, he learns to cater to Tracy (here's where the fan boys get mad, I guess). To Tracy's credit, he was still dishing out some oh-my-God did-you-see-that? moments.

    JVG out, Adelman in. Adelman has had his share of All Stars but prefers (what is it called? motion offense?) Passing, cutting, sharing the ball. He's adaptable, but his patience with the prima donna wore out, after dealing with Tracy's playing his way into shape at the beginning of the season (being lazy every summer), declaring himself in and out of the lineup....all leading up to last year's trade deadline.

    Now Tracy wants to play himself into shape again. Nope. Nope. And nope. That isn't how it works. Tracy isn't in charge. I applaud him for actually working hard at his rehabilitation, but let's face it, he's playing for a new contract. And he must be aware that his reputation has taken a hit, so he wants to show the league, "See! See! I'm ready. It's not me, it's them." Whether or not he actually wants to play yet.
     
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  13. ibm

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    that's pretty much it.
     
  14. Possum

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    What????
     
  15. larsv8

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    Thats fine, I agree with most of that, but they had ZERO problem with him rushing back and playing into shape last year. Thats a double standard and it cost Tracy dearly.
     
  16. ibm

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    is that a fact or an opinion?
     
  17. larsv8

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    He came back early last year to cover for Battier. It was quite clear the organization wanted Tracy on the court despite his physical condition.
     
  18. clos4life

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    Bingo! Durvasa, you bring the most logical argument. Tracy is far more adept at what Ariza is trying to do (offensively). If, (that's a big if) tracy is healthy and ready to play, then anyone who says he can't help this team is deluded. Scoring droughts would be far less frequent with him on the floor.

    That being said, I think there are other major concerns, but if he plays within the system and is physically able to go, Tracy is a valuable asset for this team. I would still trade him for the right player, but not for a bunch of mediocre to average players.
     
  19. smoove shoez

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    Thats the fact Jack. Rick said that last year because they didn't have much practice time because of the schedule back to backs and long road trips.
     
  20. number22

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    This is true, but it was obvious that was a mistake. They have learned from it.
     

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