[Yahoo] Rockets don't want McGrady back, continue to try to trade him

DD's a billionaire? DD, everytime I've ever had an opposing view than you, I WAS WRONG. Now be a friend and give me some money.

At this point trading TMac fo a long contract is crazy in my opinion. We're almost a qtr of the way through the season, just let him expire. We need to resign Scola, Lowry, and get a good free agent, maybe not a top tier player, but a really good one.

 

whose we?

you seem to be by yourself on this one buddy

 

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I would also like to point out that if Tracy were to be traded, what team has enough room to take a 23 million dollar contract? (without trading one of their key players) What team would want to trade one of their key players + young players for 1 guy who hasn't done anything yet? How many players would one team have to trade just to get Tracy?

My answer = Tracy is staying in Houston. He may play or he may not, but he will be here for the rest of they year, whatever happens after is whatever.

 

I won't say I love him, but I'd like the Rockets to give him the chance to play.

 

here's a picture of him at his old business

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there are teams out there (clippers and GS come to mind) that have more than 1 bad contract and could use the cap relief to build around their younger prospects (curry/randolph/morrow and gordon/griffin/thorton) but the question arise on the Rockets end will taking back more than 1 bad contract be worth it?

One of the great things Morey and his staff has done is always take a big picture approach if they feel making a move will help them win big now they'll make it even if giving up "assets" (artest for bobby jackson and 2 first round picks essentially) but if it wont they'll go for the move that will help now but still give them a lot of options for the future.

IF (and that is a big if) McGrady isnt traded I can see him stay on the bench or being diagnosed with the dreaded plantar fascisitis injury that will have him stay on the IL

 

Lets say Tracy is traded, here is another situation. Will they mess up our team chemistry? I mean that is what everybody has been talking about.

 

if they're just playing to develop there young talent than no. Bumps and bruises would be expected. the fact that they are winning is just an added bonus.

 

Easy dude. Pippen didn't have a single good moment in his miserable tenure.

 

But do we want more young talent? I mean we have plenty of young talent, that is what our team is suppose to be right now, right? Do you want to add more young talent now or maybe get a veteran player when this season is over?

 

I'll believe it when I see it. Until then, I'm taking everything with a grain of salt.

He is still traveling with the team, which means he could still return.

 

any new player to a team will have to adjust even if its a superstar

but I am going to go out on a huge limb here and guess that whoever may be traded for him will be a bit more dedicated to the Team First approach that the coaching staff has instilled in all the players that currently see the floor.

Also chemistry between the hypothetical new players and the current team can be established since there is no pre-existing bad blood between them. There will be a period of games where the team will adjust to new roles and rotations but it can work out. Adelman has shown he is a great coach who can retool on the fly given the circumstances.

McGrady only know how to play one way consistently (to his credit he has achieved team success in the regular season that way) and thats not the way the Rockets are playing this year and he isnt budging on that and with it being his contract year he is going to make sure he gets his touches and then some.


The Org is catering to the TEAM and not the single star player for once which is nice to see. Tmac is making this all about himself and not about the Rockets. The Coach has been given the green light to do what he sees best for the TEAM and this is Coach Adelman we're talking about if there is ever a "player's coach" it has to be him. Adelman has coached many all-stars and HOF-caliber players and I have yet to hear one of them speak ill of him even after he leaves. Tracy could be the first to do so.




It very will be the case wherever Tracy is shipped he'll drop like 25/6/6 or whatever which is perfectly fine and good for him, he may go off and score 45 on the Rockets. The Rockets will still be the better team in the long run for getting rid of him.

 

I have no doubt that the Rockets probably won't resign him, but the long run is only the remainder of the season. So stay or not?

 

Nicely said my friend, nicely said.

DD

 

Maybe it is 76ers. :grin:
TMac + Dorsey <=> Brand + Kapono

 

Back on 3/18/08 you wrote the following about the Rockets:

http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?p=3554491

McGrady was playing then. Indeed, the incredible stretch of wins which that thread is celebrating coincided, interestingly enough, with McGrady's return to the lineup. How is it that you can speak so glowingly about the "hustle, passing, teamwork, chemistry" of that team -- where McGrady was the most important offensive player -- and now you're saying that McGrady only knows how to play one way and he can't be part of such a system?

Am I wrong to think this board is suffering from collective amnesia?

 

I respectfully disagree with tracy only knowing how to play one idea. He played alot different in orlando than he does now because jvg felt he was maximizing the teams limitations. I think if healthy to play, he could adjust like any other good player.Now I'm not saying i wouldn't get rid of him, i'm just saying its really blown out of proportion that he only can play one way. The same can be said for lebron,roy,carmello and other wing players that have the focus on them in crunchtime.

I noticed people keep bringing up teams like gsw and the clippers as deal partners, but i can guarantee you that if the rockets make a deal with those teams, they will have to take a baron davis or kaman in la or maggaette in gsw. In indy, they would robably have to take dunleavy jr and probably murphy and send back landry or scola. Most all the scenerios will cause for the rox to take on a multi yr contract for a player that was overpaid.

 

they only remember last year, which is perfectly fine.

you ask ANY GM/coach/player who is associated with basketball whether they would want to play with a HEALTHY (now he wasn't last year and he may never be again) mcgrady or not, i think there would be zero hesitation on their part.

i remember several years ago, tracy mcgrady was one of the top in a SI poll of superstar players who would you want to play with? nash was at the top, but tmac was up there.

tracy has never been able to play with another perimeter player who is good enough to create by themselves (aaron brooks would be his first one in his career since he started becoming a star, amazing right?). so whatever style they speak of, i'm sure the coach wanted the ball in mcgrady's hands.

regardless, the era is over. let's just pray morey can use tmac and net us an impact player because i don't think tracy will handle sitting on the bench an entire season (that will just lead to more public drama).

 

Pretty much and i really don't understand it other than people really don't like the guy. . One minute he needs to be a superstar and step up and carry the team, the next he should keep the ball moving and the open man should shoot even if it is hayes. One minute he's setting guys up for easy basket under the rim, the next he's a ball stopper and isn't conducive to team play of winning ball. One minute yao is having a mvp season and goes down and the team cant win a game, the next they're charging in the playoff with and playing .670 ball. People will never thinks its enough or he tries to do too much. DD claims he's my guy which is false, but its really crazy for people to say he will disrupt team ball if he's healthy. I said last year he shouldn't played till december easily and people say he sat around didn't work out and he had minor surgeries. It really doesn't matter to this point to me and all i want to do is see the team keep playing, but you're a fool if you think tracy doesn't help this team, yeah i said it.