[Yahoo] Rockets don't want McGrady back, continue to try to trade him

Why would I need to tell the bear anything?? :grin:

 

that would be a trade that works for both teams.

 

Its allright if its all white!

 

Wow - weak comments like this do not help.....I mean think of it if the comments were the other way?

Ridiculous.

DD

 

When tmac gets traded and/or retires; please follow suit.

 

When griffin gets back, all they have to do is insert him as a starter and move camby to the bench or trade camby. Kaman is a good player, but he's had injuries and it would make 0 sense for the clippers to trade kaman for a contract. Say what you will, but the clippers don't have one of those franchises that hurt for money since they play at the staples center. Clipps wouldn't do it.

 

Oh the Weather outside is.. Weather.

 

You seem to have a very negative view about the Adelman-McGrady relationship, which is the same as what the "source" said.

You know what, part of me wants to know the inside stuff. But another part of me thinks that leaking these things out is detrimental to the well-being of the team. So I am torn. Or maybe all the GMs in the league have already known what is going on, so it doesn't really make any difference.

 

Get off your horse, yoyo was making a joke referring to the "Caucasian" bench of years past and I was acknowledging it, nothing hurtful or disrespectful in that, go eat some snow outside and cheer up.

 

If we're playing GM, I'd play like this:

McGrady isn't fetching us an All-Star. No one is expecting to see 25-6-6 McGrady, any team that trades for him has to assume his incredibly large salary in the midst of a very poor economy. DC's not so dumb that they'd trade Butler for a more expensive, less productive, washed up, aging, less durable, and 3x more expensive replacement. It makes no sense on any level. It'd be like us trading Landry for Elton Brand.

Philly getting Iverson made sense since what they're going to pay him (~ $600K) is far less than the revenue (tickets, merchandise) that he will bring in, even if his production isn't there. Philly's dealing with serious attendance woes at the moment, a disinterested fanbase, and needed a "splash" move to get fans back.

This is the sort of situation we have to aim for.

Teams in financial trouble and struggling to get people into the arena:

Miami, New Orleans, Washington, Detroit, Indiana, Charlotte, LA Clippers, Milwaukee, Minnesota, New Jersey, Sacramento, Memphis, Philadelphia

Throw out IND, SAC, and MEM right off the bat - they literally can not afford McGrady's salary even for half a season. McGrady won't sit out after being traded, and that removes the insurance parachute.

I just don't see a deal there with Washington, Charlotte, MIL, MIN, or Detroit. 1 for 3 trades are very tough to do midseason since it leaves a roster so short and scrambling for NBDL scraps to fill starting positions, and we'd have to do that sort of deal for the money to work with WAS, NJ, or MIN. MIN's only offer would be Blount, Cardinal, and Daniels. Nothing there in Charlotte, really, though I'm amazed Larry Brown took in Stephan Jackson. MIL isn't moving Redd for McGrady, IMO, and don't otherwise have the salaries to make something work. Detroit isn't likely either - Rip's deal is pretty anti-Moreyball and doesn't fill a need. Philly would want Brand + Dalembert for McGrady + Scola.

A Miami deal is plausible and would essentially be Jermaine O'Neal and maybe draft considerations. Not thrilling, but it ends the nightmare for us and gives us help with size and retains our financial flexibility.

I refuse to believe that New Orleans would throw away their only meal ticket in Chris Paul. It would be franchise suicide. They would only talk to us if it gets them rid of Peja. David West would be the most likely asset we could get in addition, but I don't know if we really want to end the Scolandry tandem for him at $9M per.

The Clippers make sense - they were close to a deal with us last year. They'd love to take a shot at LeBron, McGrady would like the idea of LA, he would fit well in their lineup in front of Butler. Question is whether LA hands us Camby + Davis or Camby + Kaman, and if we need to send a big or two as well. Downsides are - I don't like Davis at all, no deal makes Moreyball sense, and we don't need Kaman longterm at his salary.

Yuck.

The Knicks would want the deal to be Hughes + Curry or Harrington.

Bulls *might* offer Miller and Hinrich. Not Deng.

Sad truth is, there's just not that much of a market for McGrady, and his deal is going to be tricky to move. We've got to be sure not to take a bad deal just so that there is a deal. I'd consider Chicago or Miami since Miller or O'Neal would only be a rental. I'd try and be creative and see if maybe a 3-team deal could be worked out.

 

DD, why would anyone want to follow you on twitter ?

 

this i would bite.

 

dont worry DD just jealous he isnt part of the WBPS v2.0 just like how I wish I was in OCP

 

Its not the rockets secret that Tmac isn't exaclty the greatest teammate etc..

And anyone with inside info will have a negative view of mcgrady/adelman

 

This dashes my hopes of having Deng come here so every time he scores a bucket in Toyota Center I can hear "daaaaaaaaaaannnnng" from Joe Dirt over the PA system.

 

My apologies QDoubleA.....I totally misread your intentions.

DD

 

I always looked at LA as a team we could deal McGrady to and parlay the 2nd asset (Davis or Kaman assuming we want Camby's expiring) to Golden State for something we could use. Last year I was hoping for an Ellis 4 Davis swap (we heard GSW wanted Davis back and Ellis wanted out). If you start incorporating a 3rd team alongside 1 that wants to dump salary then you have a playground to make something big happen.

 

Is all good my man, no worries, lets all focus on killing each other over Tmac for now.

 

:grin:

It's look funny in some way.

First of all, wizards are in 53M in cap in future offseason. If they fell down this season, they will probably need changes. But what kind of changes? They can't trade Jamison for good player/AS potential player, cause he often has health problems, he will be 34 and he has a huge contract. Trade Arenas? Everyone knows what he can bring to every team and a person he is, so there will be never ever win/win situation trade.

Caron has a problems with Gil in locker room, so he became an option now. He is interesting addition for every team, so he is interesting player in market. They can trade him for good swingman or just blow away his contract and will have a big cash under the cap.

Some kind of trade, like Ariza + T-Mac + un-guaranteed 1-st rounder - Stevenson, Butler, Mike Miller, Mike James - can be very nice (it will not be a problem to waive dorsey who is 26 years old and only started to understand what the post game is all about last late season).

But it is not december type of trade, it can only happen in late february,if wizards became to struggle like in last regular season...