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[Yahoo] Rockets don't want McGrady back, continue to try to trade him

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by rockets934life, Dec 3, 2009.

  1. Dave_78

    Dave_78 Member

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    This is because you fail to understand that McGrady's value is in his contract. Nobody is looking to sign the guy to make their team better. If anything, teams would prefer he doesn't play so they can keep earning that insurance money every game he is out.
     
  2. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Based on comments (or lack of) from Morey and Adelman, plus what we see from reliable sources (Clutch and a few posters here, and the yahoo reporter) - I think the Rockets are sincerely trying to rid themselves of T-mac.

    He may just be practicing on the team just in case they need to showcase him for a trade. That's the only reason they might play him - to prove he's still t-mac to another team.

    I would imagine if some team expresses interest, T-mac will suddenly be "up to basketball shape" get some games in, then get traded a few weeks later.
     
  3. t_mac1

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    rockets9495, a confirmed insider, said the team doesn't care if he's 100%. so it doesn't matter what we all are trying to assume. tracy could be 50%, 75%, 125%. he's not going to play period. it's a wrap.

    both the rockets and tmac are trying to do the PR thing and keep this under wraps, which is fine. it just makes it all a guessing game for us fans.

    but leeb, we all know tracy can play right now. tracy was embarrassed last year (BADLY). if tracy has any pride, he would only try to come back (this is a CONTRACT YEAR) after all if he thinks he can actually play. there are no second chances for him after this year (his last contract). he himself is going to make sure he's ready when he plays.
     
  4. leebigez

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    To be fair, no one will give anything of value to tracy's contract either. I 've been saying that for awhile that his value is the contract and if he is the cancer some think he is on this board, i think he wouldve been gone already or told to stay away like tinsley. Since neither has happened, the "deals" are probably terrible which could be the case.
     
  5. Da Wink

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    If the Rox are ok with taking a longer contract, I'm prayin for Rip Hamilton..he fits perfectly on our team..
     
  6. t_mac1

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    i think it could be something with the clippers. what other possible reason to have the big powers all come to the LA game?
     
  7. steddinotayto

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    Iverson's return to the Sixers will sell tickets in Philly because of their mutual history together

    McGrady is not going to sell tickets just because he's McGrady anymore. If he got on the floor and the Rockets went on a tear then, yes, I see how that would equate in more tickets sold.

    Comparing both is like apples and oranges. While he's older and is slowed down, Iverson's ability to elevate on his jumpers hasn't changed to the point where he can't hit his shots anymore. McGrady, on the other hand, has seen his elevation dropped to the point where his shots aren't as consistent as what they were 3-4 years ago. Having surgery on a knee is pretty big for a player that relied so much on elevation during his jumpshot.
     
  8. _RTM_

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    well, it's not the best decision right now. I trust in Rick and DM, but this is not good.

    He played bad last season, without passion (especially in defence, where he was a nightmare), but now he is motivated and we ought to use it!

    If ex-superstar, very talented and smart player wants to prove something - give him an opportunity. Yes, he is not in a great shape, but if our management wants to see us in playoffs in late april - Adelman must use T-mac, cause everyone understands, that we have no chances reach it without him.

    If he would play bad - send him to inactive list/buy out his contract/trade him. But trying to make him Tracy Mc****berry - it is pretty well, even when you doesn't give him any chances.
     
  9. morpheus133

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    This is likely (certainly more so than the idea that Tmac is playing like an all star in practice but the rockets are just benching him out of spite). The only other thing that makes sense to me is if Tmac's behind the scenes behavior with the team is significantly worse/more distracting than has been made public knowledge. If he sticks his foot in his mouth this much publicly, you can only imagine what he says in private.

    It just doesn't make any sense to think Tmac is being the consumate professional and doing everything the team asks him, has made a full recovery and is killing people in practice, but the Rockets are benching him to "punish him". I mean this is the same Tmac who is setting his own "target date" for return publicly contradicting what the team has said. But some how it is the Rockets whose actions are doubted?
     
  10. leebigez

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    Tracy cant play full tilt right now and it has nothing to do with conditioning. What the need him to do laterally on a consistent basis for long stretches he cant do. Now i'm not going to dispute anyone else sources, but i have mine too and they're very,very accurate. Its not to say clutch or whomever don't have their's, i'm just saying he's not ready to play the way they need him to play.

    Someone posted the pregame when tracy was warming up before the thunder game. I know people were excited and its seemed really good, but guys like tracy don't warmup like that per se or practice like that. They dont stand in the corner and shoot flat footed 3's. Evereything they do is move or situational shooting. Throught that entire video, you didn't see 1 jab step and shoot. You didn't see him manuver around a pick, come off and fire nor did you see him take the ball from the top of the key, full blast and pull up. If he was ready, he would do thos e thing before a game, not shot flat footed 3's.
     
  11. Dave_78

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    I think the problem is his salary. Teams love that they can get so much cap relief but putting together a package that makes both sides happy cannot be easy. The Rockets don't want to take on bad deals but no team is going to gut their entire active rotation just to save the money.

    I think a happy medium will be reached. The Rockets will get 1 or 2 good (not great players) and another Brian Cook (bad) type of contract. It will make the team better but it won't be the splash some fans here expect.
     
  12. leebigez

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    I think the more likely scenerio is he will be here till the end of the yr and they will monitor his progress once he gets back into the lineup. They wont get any quality back unless its with a longer nocioni type of deal.
     
  13. t_mac1

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    now now, i can dispute this. i have been to quite a few rocket games in my lifetime and all are road games (either GSW or lakers or clippers). that is EXACTLY how i always see tracy does shootaround.

    that's why i don't read too much in those clips.
     
  14. Kojirou

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    So you want to play T-Mac not to win, but just to fill seats? For God's sake, we aren't the Grizzlies or 76ers who rely on stupid gimmicks to fill seats. We're a team committed to winning, and if our excellent coach and GM say that T-Mac isn't going to make us a better team, then I'll believe them.
     
  15. t_mac1

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    obviously anyone coming back from surgery can't play "full tilt" right now. he won't be able to do that with another month of practice. he's not going to get that confidence in what he can and can't do until he plays real games. i know you play ball before so you know what i'm saying.

    but leeb, you also said the team was or willing to sign him to an extension this summer. i don't think that's going to happen.
     
  16. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    The only teams that would want to trade for Tracy is those looking to go into or is in total rebuilding mode. The teams I can think of are as follows. Out of those teams, only GS, NO and the Clippers have someone I would actually want.

    GS
    Clippers
    New York
    New Jersey
    Possibly NO
     
  17. leebigez

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    I'll play this game with you, no need to go to the random thread, i'm the gm of those 4, make me a offer :p
     
  18. Da Wink

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    I also want to trade w/ Washington...Butler + McGee for Tmac,Dorsey,Taylor..
     
  19. leebigez

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    What i said is that its a likely scenerio and i still think its a likely scenerio. Its not really about him playing full tilt, they want to see him make the quick twitch cuts needs. They want to see him able to do things laterally that is needed without the conditioning. You can tell minus conditioning when a guy is still favoring a limb vs being tired. On that earler post, are you saying tracy shoots flat foot jimmy's pre game or are you agreeing with my assessment?
     
  20. Rockets9495

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    I am not ruling out that he may play for the Rockets. I just know that nobody wants him back and people want him to dissapear
     

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