[Yahoo] Rockets don't want McGrady back, continue to try to trade him

It's gonna be so odd seeing Tracy in a Jersey other than the rockets. I've been watching Rockets games since Van Gundy and it was because of McGrady I watched every game religiously.

We'll Miss you T-mac ( atleast I will but more likely more than half this forum wont and will praise morey for whomever you're scrimped for )

 

So opposing team's front offices can see him working out is my guess.

 

I was excited for first season after we took Dallas to 7 games and that was really only half a season. But I think the 100 million buck we pretty payed covers all that goodwill. Every other season, he has come up short, both on and off the court.

 

To those who want us to play T-Mac, you do realize the following, right?

1. T-Mac's chance of returning to the Rockets, even before all this hoopla, is 0.0000000%.
2. We will not win the championship this year.

What logical reason does Morey or Adelman have for playing TMac? Besides getting TMac more $$$ for his next FA contract... which WON'T be with us.

 

clutch's source is getting more accurate by the day. i think when the trade does happen, we're going to know all the details behind closed doors.

 

Because the logic wasn't there. He was short-sighted when he got up and decided to do what he wants, when he wants.

 

except a healthy tracy makes any team better. kmart, when healthy, does not.

also, jon feigen does NOT dispute story. and he says to wait until the trade deadline to see if yahoo is correct.

http://blogs.chron.com/nba/2009/12/rockets_111_warriors_109_bring_1.html

 

How so?

 

Because as it stands now, if I'm another GM, I KNOW The Rockets are trying to unload (rather than trade) Tracy. I can lowball away. If I see that Tracy has come back, played as a team player, but still be an impact player or even possibly a star, I'm more likely to offer more for him since I think he can help us win in the future.

My 2 cents at least.

 

When we think about the future of this team. The current philosophy, an ego- less team, hustle and commitment, with Adelman's system -is one of the best...and it shows. All said and done, unless some of them shows confidence to be the go to guy (clutch) to close out games, an allstar personality is needed in those moments.

Its going to be interesting to see when Yao Ming comes back on what coach is going to do, because in the current system he may have to accept the run and gun approach first, and him as second option, and the go to guy when needed. If they go back to The dreaded Half Court style offense , the predictability (anything resembling JVG) will go nowhere. I actually feel he will have a more difficult time adapting to this system then Tracy. His health (not his heart) is just as questionalble as Tracy's. A talented three hundred pound Giant jumping up and down every night is just not natural for any human's feet, in fact the fractures showing up are probably natural and are going to continue. Unless playing time and better shoes are of any factor?

I remember games Tracy took over by his sheer passing ability. That talent would fit so well and contribute to this system itself more then most players that may be available for trade out there. To judge somones commitment when their injured (after all he attempted to stay with his teamates instead of rehabilitating fully(biggest mistake), and forget everything else he has done is a misuderstanding. Diva like personality, yup, but the current team is a team I think he knows (and has been waiting for) where he doesn't need to take all the shots. - I remember him saying so many times publicly in the past where he doesn't need to do that anymore on every single game.

I guess the only point i can agree on is if he is really Healthy? How are we ever going to know? If he comes back to soon and the same thing happens, and we get stuck- no one is going to accept him for any trade- maybe this is the biggest risk here?- I can agree. But to say he has no place to contribute, or bad commitment- I cant agree.

 

This may be a stupid question:

Are Rockets9495 and Stevierebel some kind of insiders? They talk like they know some behind the scene things we all are uninformed.

Can Clutch or someone give me a clue? This is a real question. I can't be sure how much I am supposed to trust their takes.

 

That's pretty reasonable but you're forgetting one thing:

With McGrady's massive contract, other teams cannot "lowball".

Why? Sure they can put together a bunch of crap players with long contracts but few teams have those kinds of contracts (Knicks pops up in my head as one). Any team that wants McGrady's expiring contract will definitely have to give up something decent to say the least. He might not have any visual value as a player on the court, but his true value for the past couple of years was/has always been his expiring contract.

 

clutch's source says: adelman doesn't want to play mcgrady and it will not end well.

tracy still hasn't played, and more news coming out that goes along with clutch's source.

and we both know this will eventually explode (not end well).

i just can't wait for this to be over so we can move forward.

 

I hate how clutchfans has this hierarchy of how much you contribute. honestly I dont contribute as much and I'm a member, but that doesn't mean my opinion is less intelligent and articulately stated than someone who is a contributing member. Get over it...this forum is not a high school "cool" contest where you get ranked.

Second of all...the primary goal of a team is to win a championship and with that you make money. Lets look at it your way. Les wants to fill the seats. Great! Is he going to do that with Ariza or Brooks. No! As bad as Mcgrady has been last season...he attracts fans.

Look at iverson. There was an article on espn or yahoo saying that season tickets of 76ers has increased because of the signing. Iverson is well past is prime and his play on the court may be equavalent to Mac's. Mac will put people in the seats

 

How long did it take Iverson to come back from his microfracture surgery?

 

afaik Rockets9495 is and Stevierebel also has sources

so I would believe them they wouldnt just put stuff outta their butts just to stir the pot

 

He's not healthy enough toplay consistent right now and thats what it is. It doesn't mean he cant play 5 or 10 mins a night, but why would you want that and then he gets hurt again or has a set back?

 

i think alot of people have sources and everyone is right and wrong at the same time. Thats why i say alot of this stuff is grey area.

 

You can't compare Maxwell to T-mac. T-mac never ran into the stands. And T-mac didn't fake an injury to go play golf. His injury was legit.

And you know what the Rockets did by the way, they told Maxwell to stay away. They didn't pull his chain.

 

Iverson didn't have surgery, but hes older than TMAC and much more slowed down.

Iverson with the pistons averaged just as much as Tmac on a bum knee. Even with this my arguement was that his reasoning is that teams need to put people in the stands.

Iverson is the shell of the player he used to be and the 76ers season ticket sales increased overnight due to it. Playing Tmac fulfills that goal, but he argued that Tmac should sit.