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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Os Trigonum, Nov 1, 2022.

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    I dunno, but I do know unless they figure out a way to fix this carbon emissions problem, there's going to be a huge economic disaster coming.

    I know you disagree. But the human population and most industry is set up in a way for a particular climate. Yes climate changes, but slowly enough for people to migrate and adopt. When climate is changing as rapidly as it is now, the pain will be far more severe. Slowing that change and buying as much time as possible is going to be critical for enduring a strong global economy.
     
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    I think people can adapt to rapid change, so even if climate impacts are as severe as some predict (and to date many if not most predictions have been wrong), I believe society will react and cope
     
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    example

     
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    Individuals can adopt quickly. But ecosystems and a lot of infrastructure can not.

    If Greece defaulting on bank loans can send the global economy tanking, the global system isn't as resilient as people think. Ecosystems have tipping points where once they get to a certain point, change can happen in a very rapid fashion. Something as small as a change in ph past a certain point, a temperature increase of one degree, a change in oxidation levels, can cause massive unpredictable changes.

    The more we can slow the coming of these changes the better off we'll be. I don't think it's "we have to sacrifice the economy today for tomorrow". But we do need to start investing far more and taking this a lot more seriously. One person doesn't make a difference. It will take a coalition of gov't, industry, and science to solve the problems without making change economically hard on populations. This should not be a political issue.
     
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    It's a scam of sorts, flight attendants force or coerce you to move from those seats all the time, especially if some as---le who didn't have the sense to book a seat next to their friend and can't be apart from them for the length of a flight just decides to take yours.
     
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    "Beach erosion" is a serious issue. Many of the beaches especially in Florida aren't original sand but sand brough in from as far as the Bahamas.

    Here's an article from 2008 about the problem of Beach erosion.
    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/what-causes-beach-erosion/
    What Causes Beach Erosion?
    Is beach erosion a natural cycle or is it getting worse with rising sea levels
    Dear EarthTalk: I’ve noticed a lot of beach erosion along the eastern U.S. coast. Beaches are virtually nonexistent in places. Is this a usual cycle that will self-correct, or are these beaches permanently gone from sea level rise or other environmental causes?
    -- Jan Jesse, Morristown, TN


    Unfortunately for beach lovers and owners of high-priced beach-front homes, coastal erosion in any form is usually a one-way trip. Man-made techniques such as beach nourishment—whereby sand is dredged from off-shore sources and deposited along otherwise vanishing beaches—may slow the process, but nothing short of global cooling or some other major geomorphic change will stop it altogether.

    According to Stephen Leatherman (“Dr. Beach”) of the National Healthy Beaches Campaign, beach erosion is defined by the actual removal of sand from a beach to deeper water offshore or alongshore into inlets, tidal shoals and bays. Such erosion can result from any number of factors, including the simple inundation of the land by rising sea levels resulting from the melting of the polar ice caps.

    Leatherman cites U.S. Environmental Protection Agency estimates that between 80 and 90 percent of the sandy beaches along America’s coastlines have been eroding for decades. In many of these cases, individual beaches may be losing only a few inches per year, but in some cases the problem is much worse. The outer coast of Louisiana, which Leatherman refers to as “the erosion ‘hot spot’ of the U.S.,” is losing some 50 feet of beach every year.

    Of particular concern is the effect climate change, which not only causes sea levels to rise but also increases the severity and possibly the frequency of harsh storms, has on beach erosion. “While sea level rise sets the conditions for landward displacement of the shore, coastal storms supply the energy to do the ‘geologic work’ by moving the sand off and along the beach,” writes Leatherman on his DrBeach.org website. “Therefore, beaches are greatly influenced by the frequency and magnitude of storms along a particular shoreline.”

    Besides collectively lowering our greenhouse gas emissions substantially, there is little that individuals—let alone coastal landowners—can do to stop beach erosion. Building a bulkhead or seawall along one or a few coastal properties may protect homes from damaging storm waves for a few years, but could end up doing more harm than good. “Bulkheads and seawalls may accelerate beach erosion by reflecting wave energy off the facing wall, impacting adjacent property owners as well,” writes Leatherman, adding that such structures along retreating shorelines eventually cause diminished beach width and even loss.

    Other larger scale techniques like beach nourishment may have better track records, at least in terms of slowing or delaying beach erosion, but are expensive enough as to warrant massive taxpayer expenditures. In the early 1980s, the city of Miami spent some $65 million adding sand to a 10-mile stretch of fast-eroding shoreline. Not only did the effort stave off erosion, it helped revitalize the tony South Beach neighborhood and rescue hotels, restaurants and shops there that cater to the rich and famous.
     

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