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[Yahoo!] Hornets possibly deal Collison in offseason?

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by ASidd_1990, Mar 20, 2010.

  1. ASidd_1990

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  2. Clips/Roxfan

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    That a pretty good package considering the coming lockout and team probably looking to cut payroll for 2011. It will be interesting to see what they get.

    Why not keep Collinson and trade Chris Paul?
     
  3. roslolian

    roslolian Rockets Only Fan

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    Too small a sample size for Collison to be anything but a sweetener in Peja's expiring contract. I remember the hotshot pg in Milwaukee, some guys were talking about he was better than Brooks when he had that 20 assist game and how he will tear the league up when he signed in Minny.
     
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    I think they'll have an easier time moving a Collison/Peja ($16.5M) package than a Paul/Peja package ($30M).

    That said, I think both packages will be put out there. I agree that a franchise drowning in red ink should push the second trade, especially to a jilted team that clears cap room but can't draw FA interest this summer.

    The Timberwolves, for example, could send over a massive TE (~ $20M under the cap and will be lucky if anyone comes to visit) and pick to take those two. Toss in Gomes and Flynn (or Sessions) to make sure the money works out.

    Timberwolves instantly become respectable with a Paul-Jefferson-Love combination. New Orleans gets significant cap relief and isn't hampered too badly from a competitive standpoint (thanks to PG depth).
     
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    Without Chris Paul, the Hornets become irrelevant. Packaging Collison with Peja's contract makes a lot of sense.
     
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    I agree, but this is still George Shinn we're talking about. The guy that wouldn't pay to keep the Larry Johnson - Alonzo Mourning combination, and then continued to cycle through guys (Glen Rice, Eddie Jones, Vlade) anytime they were up for a new deal.

    In the Hornets franchise history, they've NEVER kept a guy around for more than half his career. The organization is drowning in debt and can't bring in enough revenue to break even. They're borrowing money from the NBA, and I see no way for them to pay it off.

    They've got plenty of dead weight they need to move including Posey at $6.5M, Peterson at $6.5M, and I don't even think they'd turn down a cap deal to shed Okafor and his $11M. This is a team in dire straits, and I wouldn't be shocked to see them fire sale like the Nets did the last couple years or the Wizards did this year.

    A third of the league will happily sell off everyone ahead of the coming lockout, banking on the new CBA to allow them to build a roster on better financial terms. But if you keep a max guy, you're stuck with him.
     
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    thats dumb because collison is an amazing backup and a paul and collison combo is championship type.
     
  8. Shaud

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    How is it dumb to try and get something for a player that is too talented to come off of the bench.

    New Orleans did not make the playoffs this year and even if Paul didn't get hurt they probably still would have missed the playoffs. Trading Collison to help out Chris Paul in other areas the team is weak in is a smart move.
     
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    In the 64 games that Collison has played, half have been starting and half off of the bench. As a backup he's only averaging 4.5 PPG and 2 APG, while as a starter he's averaging 18 PPG and 9 APG. The man is too good to be a backup.
     
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    shane+lowry and a pick for collison.
     
  11. daeyeth

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    shane and a pick? that's way too much unless we're getting peja's expiring contract as well
     
  12. ryano2009

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    If I was the Hornets, I would keep him, he is pretty good PG considering coming off the bench, not to mention Paul's health has been shaky the last couple of years, he could be great backup if Paul goes down again next season.
     
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    We don't have the minutes for Collison even if we trade Lowry. Collison needs to start somewhere, not come off the bench.

    And don't say bench AB because while Collison is a starter, I'm not at all convinced that he is better than Brooks. Too small of a sample size to judge.

    Collison doesn't make sense for us unless we trade Brooks somewhere else for a deal Morey can't resist. I don't think Morey will do that unless it is an amazing offer.
     
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    wow i dont like to say stuff like this often but

    you are dumb please stop posting on the internet stuff like this
     
  15. ryano2009

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    R U serious bro ?? :confused: :confused:
     

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