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[Yahoo! Games] How playing Madden online could cost you $10

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  1. KingLeoric

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    So buying used single player games should be fine right?

    Also EA servers are meh. Game like Army of Two 40th Day lags really bad. Plenty of EA games even got all their servers shut down completely in less than 2 years.
     
  2. DaDakota

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    Great, then it won't cost you an extra $10....

    DD
     
  3. KingLeoric

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    But why even charge for an extra $10 when the servers are bad and are going to be shut down in no time?

    I think EA should think about how to improve the quality of their games and service before thinking about how to get more money from customers.
     
  4. Xsatyr

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    EA also shut down servers for madden 07, 08 and even 09 to try and force gamers to buy Madden 10. I can understand 07 and 08 but 09? Really??? Also when one person buys a game and then sells it, he is no longer using the server. The original copy was paid for, EA is just taxing the second buyer to use what was already paid for.

    And DD this is for you, the general public run their own servers for free on pc all the time. You do not see this with consoles bc they use p2p for the most part. EA is trying to charge what others offer for free by not letting people volunteer their services.
     
  5. Pizza_Da_Hut

    Pizza_Da_Hut I put on pants for this?

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    Video game making is the art of the modern era. The point of making video games should be to share a dream of an uncharted world where you kill aliens we couldn't possibly see in our lifetime, or dance to music in a style that isn't really dance, or to let musically inept people experience the joy of playing an instrument. Video game making has and will always be an artform, a dream making experience. People who choose to make a profit and then some pervert a beautiful system. There is nothing wrong with getting what you are owed, that is fine, what EA is doing is getting that and then some. Any person who supports this type of profiteering not only is perverting the beauty of video games, but does not understand the point of them. Realistically, EA does not lose $10 a person if the game is transfered to another owner. If they did, why not bump all game costs down by $10 and force people to go online and download the internet portion and pay that $10. If they were truly losing that much money, they would overhaul the system completely. They are just money loving douchebags, and to speak frankly, those are the last people I want designing games.
     
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  6. Xsatyr

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    There is nothing wrong with trying to make back what you invested and then some. They are a business and need to make profits. They get a lot of financial backing from investors and shareholders who expect to see a return. Without them big budget games would be nearly impossible.

    However, I do not agree with this particular method. Experienced devs and publishers should know how much to invest to expect a return. They should not add additional cost to consumers bc of greed or lost expenses on a game they invested to much in.
     
  7. mic

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    Seriously.

    And... don't those of us who have Xbox live subscriptions already pay for the ability to play online?

    Of course we have every right to be annoyed by this. It does absolutely nothing for the consumer. The only winner is EA... Oh, and DD, apparently. ;)
     
  8. lpbman

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    One man boycott on EA starts now.

    The gigantic budget games can all wither and die.
     
  9. KingLeoric

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    In order to stay in business you need to make quality product and provide quality services.

    Millions of people are willing to pay monthly fee for XBox Live and WoW because they are pleased with the product and service they got.

    If a game interests me a lot, I'd buy it new at full price;
    if a game interests me enough, I'd buy it new when the price drops;
    if a game looks somewhat interesting, I'd buy it used;
    if a game does not interest me at all, I'd never touch it.

    EA got their position in the bussiness by making good games. If they start to make lots of meh games with meh servers, keep shuting down game servers quickly and attempt charge extra, they are going down.
     
  10. chow_yun_fat

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    I don't understand this part. How can you be pleased to pay for the ability to play online when there is no server? Most if not all the games are P2P for xbox.
     
  11. Xsatyr

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    I do not agree what xbox live offers is worth $50 a year. Xbox live does have party chats, cross game chats, ability to see what friends are doing, etc. Also updates and downloads are much faster compared to ps3. Is it worth the price? Nope but at least you know what exactly you are paying for.
     
  12. bmb4516

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    I really don't understand the uproar over this. In fact I sit strongly in EA's corner here.

    Buy a brand new, just released game at BestBuy it's gonna cost you $60. A few days later GameStop will have it used for $55. If you buy it used though, you're not going to have the online features. So you're out $65. GameStop will have to drop their prices on used games to make up for that $10, and it will probably force them to put more new games on the shelves.

    In the long run this will increase EA's new game sales and mostly likely increase the overall quality of their games.
     
  13. MiddleMan

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    True, I would like to host a server for around $60 dollars for three months so a whole gaming community can enjoy just like in PC. Sadly microsoft wont allow it.

    Buy used games at ebay and craigslist for $30.
     
  14. ChumpCity

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    I think their demise was in large part because of Netflix and Redbox.

    The point you are trying to make is not clear to me. Are you saying Blockbuster's downfall is because they did not share their revenues with the movie studios??

    I find that hard to believe, bud......
     
  15. rrj_gamz

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    I agree, but that was already included in the orginal purchase price...the package says online play...so as long as game is gifted or we share/post the code, you can avoid any additional charge, about 17% extra, on top of the $60 already paid...

    that's what its all about...it's not about used game revenue, online revenue, it's monopolizing the market to your advantage...I don't have many EA titles, but I can tell you this will ensure I won't buy any in the future...
     
  16. DaDakota

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    I think if you pay the $10, you probably have some sort of guarantee or implied contract that the servers will not be taken down...maybe they start lowering the fees once it gets closer to shutting them down.


    As a game designer myself, I understand the passion, but I also understand the value of getting paid for the work.

    And the people making this decision are the financial folks, though I guarantee you we all support it 100%.

    Ever wonder why PC games are dying? There is no money in them because of pirating and lack of shelf space.

    Heck, I produced a game called Starlancer, was one of the lead designers on it as well.

    I am a PC gamer myself and have run servers....but the good old days are gone, I think it is only fair to get paid for the work.

    If EA is hosting the servers, they have no responsibilty to support those servers for people buying used product.

    This will drop the cost of used games, and also increase revenues, all it will do is take a little bit of Gamestops revenue......and probably open up a bit more shelf space.

    Trust me, once we go download only...the used market will dry up.....


    And guys, it is really simple, if you don't like it, don't buy the games.....


    DD
     
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  17. Bandwagoner

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    What happens if my PS3 dies or I change my username? I need to spend another 10 bucks to be able to play my games again?
     
  18. DaDakota

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    Nah, they will have a situation where you register by email, I would guess.

    DD
     
  19. Bandwagoner

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    If that is the case then I could easily transfer it to a buyer. All it would do is hurt the retail used market.
     
  20. DaDakota

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    No sorry, I am saying that their inability to move from packaged goods to embrace the downloadable content will kill them.

    Same thing is coming for games.

    DD
     

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