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[Yahoo!] Carmelo privately expressing more enthusiasm to join Rockets than Knicks

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by ebu, Aug 23, 2010.

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  1. htownrox1

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    I can't believe this thread is going to reach 100 pages on pure speculation.. wow
     
  2. sammy

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    He has gone further than Yao. You're just ridiculous.

    Edit: We are NOT real contenders. Morey knows it and has expressed this notion. ASidd is completely right about how this could be the KG type situation that DM mentioned.
     
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  3. ASidd_1990

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    He's gone to the WCF, something the Rockets haven't even sniffed in the last decade.

    LOL, it's not a coincidence that every season that he's been in the league, his team's been to the playoffs.

    T-Mac wishes he had even half the success of Melo.
     
  4. ASidd_1990

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    He has publically said that in numerous interviews. DD's just talkin outta his ass.

    Morey Interview with Tom Martin

     
  5. J.R.

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    http://es.pn/cx71WO
     
  6. Bo6

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    More like pure speculaWESOME!

    right? right?
     
  7. DaDakota

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    Dude you have been following me around in an irritated state for a month or so.

    I am just having fun with the guys on the other side posting the same cliches.

    I think it is hilarious that folks are so into Melo without (IMO) thinking about whether he is really good for the team, or winning in general.

    It seems to me, that a lot of people are just happy to be in the conversation for an alleged superstar, that they go gaga for a player that is littered with issues.

    So, I have fun with it, call him Thugelo, or Punkelo, or whatever. Big whoop !

    If Morey traded for him, I would cheer for him like any Rocket, but as he continued to fail in Houston as he has in Denver, I would be more than happy to point it out.

    :grin:

    DD
     
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    The Denver Nuggets' resistance to trading star forward Carmelo Anthony is fading away, according to sources with knowledge of Denver's thinking.

    The Nuggets still aren't aggressively shopping Anthony and haven't withdrawn their longstanding offer of a contract extension, but numerous sources told ESPN.com that Denver officials have in recent days let other teams know for the first time that they will listen to pitches after previously resisting such discussions.

    "I'm not sure how soon, but I do think they're going to trade him [between now and February]," said one rival GM.


    Said another source briefed on Denver's plans: "There's no doubt they are working on it. Eventually they're going to pull the trigger."

    Reports have persisted for weeks that Anthony, who can become a free agent at the end of the coming season, wants out.

    ESPN The Magazine's Ric Bucher reported Aug. 16 that it was "a matter of when, not if, Anthony and the Nuggets will go their separate ways," while CBSSports.com quoted "multiple sources" last week as saying that the 26-year-old "has not wavered in his desire to be dealt" and that the New Jersey Nets are making the hardest active pitch for Anthony.

    Several league sources on Monday told ESPN.com that they believe the Nets have emerged as the front-runner to secure Anthony. Not only is Anthony willing to sign a contract extension with the Nets, sources say the club is willing to make an intriguing offer of Derrick Favors (the No. 3 pick in this year's draft), the expiring contracts of Troy Murphy and Kris Humphries and at least one future first-round pick to Denver to land Anthony.

    A source close to the Nets told ESPN.com that he wasn't ready to concede that the Nets were the front-runners for Anthony's services, nor were they willing to confirm what the Nets would offer. However, the source did acknowledge that New Jersey was in serious consideration based on the Nuggets' reluctance to trade Anthony to a Western Conference team and the Nets' combination of expiring contracts, draft picks and a young player with serious upside.

    A number of others teams including the Knicks, Bulls, Rockets, Clippers and Warriors have been pursuing Anthony as well. However, sources on several of those teams were pessimistic that they could match what the Nets have to offer.

    "They've got what the Nuggets want," one general manager told ESPN.com. "We're trying to put a package together that matches what the Nets can offer, but it's tough."

    Although Anthony has not made any such declarations publicly, it appears that Nuggets management is growing increasingly resigned to the fact that they won't be able to change their franchise player's mind.

    One source close to the situation told ESPN.com that Anthony has been no more communicative with the organization since the hiring of Masai Ujiri as Denver's new vice president of basketball operations in late August than he was before Ujiri's return to the Nuggets. Ujiri began his front-office career as a Nuggets scout during Anthony's rookie season in 2003-04 and spoke optimistically about arranging a face-to-face meeting with Anthony -- which sources say has not yet taken place -- and trying to sell him on the team's plans for the future at his introductory press conference.

    The Nuggets, during Ujiri's first two weeks in the office, consistently told teams calling to register trade interest in Anthony that they weren't ready to discuss the subject.

    But the Nuggets, sources said, have relaxed that stance and are starting to explore how much they might be able to get in return for the high-scoring small forward. To agree to a deal, Denver would expect at least one top-flight young player it can market along with salary-cap relief and multiple future first-round picks.

    Trading Anthony, however, is not as simple as merely seeking out the best deal or even recruiting a third team to help facilitate a trade, because of Anthony's ability to become a free agent in July. It's widely assumed in NBA front-office circles that any team trading for Anthony would expect him to commit to a contract extension as part of the deal -- as Kevin Garnett did when Minnesota sent him to Boston in the summer of 2007 -- which gives Anthony some measure of input into his trade destination.

    Yet sources say that Denver, after watching LeBron James and Chris Bosh devastate Cleveland and Toronto, respectively, by bolting to Miami in July, is determined to avoid the same fate with Anthony and will ultimately work with him on a trade before the February trading deadline if the alternative is potentially losing him outright in free agency.

    Ujiri, in particular, just lived through the Bosh saga as a member of Toronto's front office before taking the Nuggets' job.

    By sidestepping questions about his future, Anthony has contributed to the mounting tension in Denver all summer while the Nuggets' three-year extension offer worth $65 million remains unsigned. Around the time of the draft in June, Nuggets officials were quietly optimistic that Anthony was about to sign.

    The Nuggets' annual media day is Sept. 27, with training camp scheduled to open the following day.

    Updated: September 20, 2010, 5:44 PM ET
    By Marc Stein and Chad Ford
    ESPN.com
     
  9. ASidd_1990

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    Damn, I wish we coulda netted Collison and Posey in that Ariza trade instead of Lee. Coulda blocked the Nets and Pacers from it and used our assets for a Melo trade increase.
     
  10. sammy

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    You make redundant posts that make me want to scratch my head. I don't want to reply to your nonsense but it's hard not to regulate..hate to use Ronny's favorite term.

    You find it fun to get under people's skin. Go look through the Is Matt Schaub clutch thread. You have countless arrogant posts in that one thread alone.


    And Melo continues to fail? Dude, you are madly in love with Yao and the guy has barely gotten out of the first round. We need another star and the majority of us recognize that.

    Anyways, we have no shot if the Nets are willing to give up Favors.
     
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    I get that, Melo is not it, and I am not madly in love with Yao, I am resigned to the fact that we have to hope for the best, but I would work him to find out if he is going to hold up, and I would trade him today for the right deal.

    Who was it that posted the "Trade Yao for Blake Griffin" thread before we found out about his injuries? Me !

    Agreed.

    DD
     
  12. ABrooks0

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    This way you never lose. Interesting DD...
     
  13. ASidd_1990

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    Nobody on our current team can match the potential of Favors and even Morey was willing to trade for him.

    Rumors were that we tried to trade up in the draft and Philly was offering the #2 pick and dump Brand as well, but at the last minute balked at the deal.

    It was widely assumed around these boards that we would have taken Cousins with that pick, but Feigan said we were targeting Favors instead.

    Crap, this sucks. The only way we got a chance at Melo is if we sell the whole farm and take back a bad contract or two from them.
     
  14. DaDakota

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    LOL - says the guy who said he "Hated me"....

    Yeah, I am gonna listen to what you say...fo-sure !

    You are like Chumlee to my Rick on Pawn Stars....

    I would have done that deal...I like Evan Turner a lot.

    DD
     
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  15. ASidd_1990

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    While I like Turner, it would have been better for the franchise to take a center like Cousins or Favors to potetionally replace Yao.

    Not to sound like too much of a pessimist, but I think Yao's days as a Rocket are numbered. A guy like Favors or Cousins would have been perfect to replace him. Imagine them working out with Sikma and Hakeem every offseason.
     
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    We could still compete with the Nets offer if were willing to take J.R. i guess.

    Budinger, JHill, Jeffries expiring, 2 1st round picks (from NY) vs Favors, Murphy expiring, Humphries expiring, (1st rd pick)
     
  17. ASidd_1990

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    Yeah, I really don't see us landing Melo if the Nets offer up Favors.

    I would try to help facilitate a trade in which we somehow land Billups or Nene.

    Something like this: along with draft picks as well

    Denver Recieves:
    Derrick Favors
    Troy Murphy
    Aaron Brooks
    Mike Harris
    Jared Jeffries
    Jordan Hill

    Houston Recieves:
    Chauncey Billups

    New Jersey Recieves:
    Carmelo Anthony

    Billups/Lowry
    Martin/Lee
    Battier/Budinger
    Scola/Hayes/Patterson
    Yao/Miller/Dampier

    That leaves us with Battier, Budinger, and some various other picks to use in a trade at the deadline.
     
  18. DaDakota

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    See this is what I am talking about....you start to get much worse because you are just giving up way too much.

    If you can pick Melo up cheaply like Artest then fine, otherwise, screw it, we are better off with the team as is....

    DD
     
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    How about my trade scenario?

    Its basically a Brooks-Billups swap essentially because Hill and Jeffries have no real value on the basketball court.

    We still keep our core relatively intact and still retain enough assets to swing a deadline deal.
     
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    So you're going to give up AB and Hill to pick up an old Billlups... lol?
     
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