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[Yahoo!] Carmelo privately expressing more enthusiasm to join Rockets than Knicks

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CJLarson said:

I'm getting sick of all this.

I think people are really under estimating what we already have. With Yao back, we are already in the top 4 (at least) in the West. He's one of those guys who makes his teammates better. Sure, numbers will drop with him getting a lot of touches, but the efficiency level for our guys (mainly our backcourt) will be through the roof I think.

Whether we trade for a star or not...I'm completely happy with our team.
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AGREE 100% WITH THIS POST. I DON"T MIND, AT ALL, ROLLING WITH WHAT WE GOT.

#1721 msakes, Sep 9, 2010

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[Yahoo!] Carmelo privately expressing more enthusiasm to join Bulls than Rockets

#1722 JVL713, Sep 9, 2010
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Its cool carmelo, you dont wanna come here. Fine, we dont need ya...Remember that you could have been a WINNER here...Dueces

#1723 45souf, Sep 9, 2010
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Its cool carmelo, you dont wanna come here. Fine, we dont need ya...Remember that you could have been a WINNER here...Dueces
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So who's next on the get-list? CP3?

#1724 DavidRocket, Sep 9, 2010
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So who's next on the get-list? CP3?
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Man I got Granger then Iggy before Carmleo but I guess Iggy would be next?

#1725 joesr, Sep 9, 2010
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joesr said:

Man I got Granger then Iggy before Carmleo but I guess Iggy would be next?
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There would have to be some crazy stuff going down to even have a remote chance that Granger gets traded anywhere. Iggy is a nice player but not for 13 mill a season

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Brian Chapman will be arriving soon, distributing individual sized portions of crow quarters.

#1727 raj87, Sep 9, 2010

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ESPN just said Carmelo wants Bulls or Knicks (?). THAT MEANS ITS TRUE.

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[Yahoo!] Carmelo privately expressing more enthusiasm to join Bulls than Rockets
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Seems pretty private to me.

#1729 Lurch, Sep 9, 2010
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That's it,were not getting him so might as well move on and take that melo picture of the clutchfans home screen

#1730 Ballin_Rocket, Sep 9, 2010
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There would have to be some crazy stuff going down to even have a remote chance that Granger gets traded anywhere. Iggy is a nice player but not for 13 mill a season
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a crazy enough lottery pick that excels! woohoo, but yeah.

iggy and his salary, I think it matters what we would have to give up. its defense we need right now, something to replace battiers age so I do think its worth it

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a crazy enough lottery pick that excels! woohoo, but yeah.

iggy and his salary, I think it matters what we would have to give up. its defense we need right now, something to replace battiers age so I do think its worth it
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You have to remember that re-signing Brooks is going to cost a few beers.

#1732 Bo6, Sep 9, 2010
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We do NOT need melo.

#1733 Tfor3, Sep 9, 2010

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You have to remember that re-signing Brooks is going to cost a few beers.
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Im sorry, but if get a good player, then SnT Brooks. Picks and prospects baby.

#1734 joesr, Sep 9, 2010
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Don't Count on seeing Carmelo as a Bull

CHICAGO -- Yes, the Chicago Bulls are interested in Carmelo Anthony. Who wouldn't be? If a team has a chance to land a player of his caliber, in any kind of trade, it would be foolish not to listen.

That's exactly what Bulls general manager Gar Forman and executive vice president of operations John Paxson are doing right now. They have seen and heard about the Yahoo! Sports report that says the Bulls are high on Anthony's wish list. They're listening to whatever Denver might be saying, and they're listening to one another and the rest of their staff.

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Joakim Noah will make $3.1 million next season and will become a restricted free agent after the season if the Bulls don't extend him.The idea of pairing up Derrick Rose and Anthony for years to come has to make the duo salivate. But in order to land Anthony, is it worth having to trade away several other key pieces of a young, formidable team that appears only to be getting better? That's the question that Forman and Paxson have to figure out long before they enter into any kind of serious discussions with the Nuggets.

At the forefront of that quandary is this specific question:

Are the Bulls willing to include Joakim Noah in a deal that would bring Anthony to Chicago?

In many ways, that is probably the only way this deal would get done. There's been speculation for several months that if the Bulls make an offer for Anthony it would include Luol Deng, Taj Gibson, James Johnson and/or draft picks and cash.

But why would Denver accept that deal? Deng has four years and almost $52 million left on his contract. Not to mention the fact that he has had a hard time staying healthy the past few years. Gibson is a solid player who is only going to get better, but he isn't ever going to turn into a superstar. Johnson is a project, and it's debatable whether he will ever earn any meaningful minutes for any team.

You're telling me the Nuggets can't find a better deal than that somewhere?

Now, if the Bulls are willing to part with Noah then everything changes. Adding Noah to the deal makes it more palatable for the Nuggets to take on Deng's contract. But even then they would probably still insist that Gibson and/or picks and cash be included. Why take on all the extra money owed to Deng unless you are getting several young, potential game-changers, in return?

It's hard to imagine any scenario in which this deal gets done without Deng being involved because of the way the salary cap numbers shake out, but even with Noah involved it may not be a slam dunk. The Nuggets would have to work out a new deal with Noah at some point before next summer, or else risk having their key trade piece become a restricted free agent at the year and watch him potentially walk away.

If they did find a way to re-sign Noah, that would mean they most likely would have over $100 million invested in Noah and Deng over the next few years on a team that clearly appears to be headed into serious rebuilding mode.

If the Nuggets don't pick up Chauncey Billups' $14.2 million option next summer, (assuming, of course there isn't a lockout), the Nuggets essentially become the Bulls JV team, minus Rose and Carlos Boozer. Now, is it worth it for them to go that route or try to find a better deal with a team that has even younger, less expensive pieces, like the Clippers for example? That's something that new Denver GM Masai Ujiri must figure out.

In the meantime, Forman and Paxson have to go through the same kind of thought process: Is it worth it to trade Noah, Deng and Gibson for Anthony?

The guess here is that the ultimate conclusion will be no.

The Bulls would gladly deal Deng, Gibson, Johnson cash and picks to the Nuggets for Carmelo. If they can convince Ujiri that's the best offer he can get then GarPax instantly vaults up to second place in the executive of the year voting behind Pat Riley and the Bulls will truly be able to go toe to toe with the Lakers, Heat, Magic and Celtics for a title for years to come. But if Forman and Paxson give up Noah, Deng and Gibson for Anthony how much closer to a title are they really?

Who plays center for the Bulls? An unproven rookie in Omer Asik or a grizzled veteran like Kurt Thomas? How do they line up with a Lakers frontline which includes Pau Gasol, Andrew Bynum and Lamar Odom? Who is going to deal with Dwight Howard in a seven-game series? A starting lineup that included Rose, Anthony and Boozer would be very good but how much better, if at all, would it be than a Rose, Noah, Deng, Boozer lineup with Gibson coming off the bench?

Are the Bulls any closer to a title with Anthony if they have to give up Noah in the process?

That's the question that is spinning around the heads of Forman and Paxson right now and that's why, in the end, I don't think you'll see the Bulls and Nuggets make a deal unless Denver gets desperate at the last minute and accepts some kind of proposal which includes Deng, Gibson and a potpourri of other things that Bulls wouldn't mind unloading.
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Nothing to see here folks.

#1735 ASidd_1990, Sep 10, 2010
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Does all the latest chatter seem to indicate that we (The Houston Rockets) are not in the running for Jello Anthony?
If this is correct will Morey still make another change in the Team prior to Training Camp?

#1736 Yetti, Sep 10, 2010
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Yetti said:

Does all the latest chatter seem to indicate that we (The Houston Rockets) are not in the running for Jello Anthony?
If this is correct will Morey still make another change in the Team prior to Training Camp?
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It's probably a good thing judging from Morey's track record.

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Yetti said:

Does all the latest chatter seem to indicate that we (The Houston Rockets) are not in the running for Jello Anthony?
If this is correct will Morey still make another change in the Team prior to Training Camp?
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Just like farts, the loud ones are always full of nothing, but the silent ones are deadly. :grin:

For all you know, Morey is working on the parameters of a Melo deal with Ujiri as we speak.

#1738 ASidd_1990, Sep 10, 2010

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Carmelo also privately expressing that he likes to sleep with Kat Stacks more than Lala.

#1739 dragonz, Sep 11, 2010
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ASidd_1990 said:

Just like farts, the loud ones are always full of nothing, but the silent ones are deadly. :grin:

For all you know, Morey is working on the parameters of a Melo deal with Ujiri as we speak.
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One can dream. :grin:

#1740 HorneR, Sep 11, 2010

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