[Yahoo!] Carmelo privately expressing more enthusiasm to join Rockets than Knicks

my guess is that there is NO restriction on guys who are recently signed seeing as how you can sign and trade a guy pretty much simultaneously

 

just like the Bosh/Lebron situation. Both are hated by their former teams but they caved and agreed to the sign and trades. Also, money was an even bigger issue for Bosh.

Nuggets do not have much leverage to begin with considering he is in his final year. Near the deadline that leverage will shrink even more. By off-season they will have no leverage.

 

bosh/lebron isn't a fair apples to apples comparison.

1) both their respective teams thought they had a good shot at resigning them well after the trade deadline.
2) both those guys had more leverage than Melo does because they could leave an extention or sign and trade on the table because they could sign deals as FA's for the current max. Melo won't likely have that option with the new CBA. Because of that Denver has more leverage since they know Melo doesn't want to leave money on the table by not having any deal signed by the trade deadline.

 

Since I was corrected on this issue before, I'll share what I learned.

Traded players can be traded immediately if they are the only player from their team involved.

If they are "packaged" with other players, the team has to wait 60 days in order to trade them. So New Jersey will have to wait October 11th to combine Favors or whoever with Murphy.

My opinion, the longer this drags on, the less likely it happens for the Rockets.

 

1) Toronto never really thought they could sign Bosh
2) if the new CBA passes, then I agree with this point...altho, Melo WILL have the option, it just wont be as good of an option as it was for Bosh and Bron

 

Players who are recently signed aren't eligible to be traded until Dec. 15th. You can sign a player for the purpose of a sign and trade but those deals have to be completed within 48 hours. I believe Kyle Lowry has no trade clause for the first year of his contract since the Rockets matched his offer sheet.

 

Can Morey beat these trade offers?

Read more: http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archi...o_as_denver_hears_trade_offers/#ixzz0yCqQcBja

 

Lowry can be traded to any team but the Cavs this year, only with his permission.

And not before Dec 15th.

DD

 

1) yeah not entirely sure what Toronto's FO realistically thought in regards to bosh resigning. I did think from their fans forums that IF they got into the playoffs and took it somewhere they might have been acquisition away from keeping bosh

2) I agree Melo no matter what has the option to go FA at the end of this season. But I think the potential CBA is a significant piece of leverage in Denvers favor. If I'm not mistaken this is the reason why lbj, Wade, and bosh signed the shorter term contracts that they did. They had all the leverage his past summer FA's next summer and beyond don't. Melos probably kicking himself for not doing the same (or maybe his agent).

 

Nuggets might try to play hardball but its almost a sure thing they will fold. Nuggets losing out on getting anything for Melo is greater than Melo losing out on 5 mil a season or something.

 

I say no Morey cannot top any of those offers. But thats a list of crappy teams besides Chicago. I think our offer could be better than Chicago's.

 

Well there's always Chris Paul.

I don't think Morey can offer a better package unless he guts the team, which he won't do.

Let's move on from Melo.

Granger, Iggy, Paul anyone?

 

Well I doubt that the Warriors make Curry available so we may be able to beat their offer. I'm not so sure about the Clippers offer though and there is no way we're beating the Nets offer.

IMO the only way we beat the Clippers/Nets offers is if Melo comes out and says he wouldn't sign an extension with either one and that he wants to go to Houston.

 

Man i don't know about that. 5 million a year for a 3-4 year contract....15-20 million is a lot to risk in your prime years, even if you are stinkin' rich. Plus Denver just might be pissed off enough at Melo to risk losing out on acquiring assets to see him lose out on that 15-20 million. But if cooler business minds prevail, everyone will look for a win win.

 

I can see him not signing an extension with the Clippers, but if the Nets somehow trade for Melo without giving up Lopez, I can see him signing an extension with the Nets.

Wow, gotta hand it to the Nets though. They didn't get LeBron, but will get the 2nd best SF in the league.

Damn, I was really excited about Melo coming to Houston.

Unless we get CP3, we need to stand pat. No use of going after Granger or Iggy, their not worth it.

All that asset collecting and Morey can't show for it. Sucks man, it sucks!

 

Did we not learn anything from this summer? Carmelo is interested in teaming up for a brighter future, not a few extra million. He has all the leverage. The Nuggets can trade him ANYWHERE.. but why would ANY team trade for him if he tells them he's not signing the extension? The answer is they wouldn't, which gives him the ability to furnish the Nuggets with a list of teams upon which he would be willing to sign an extension.

You don't get full value for Carmelo if you're selling him as a one year rental.

And lol.. this is EXACTLY the same situation as McGrady. Pretty much down to the tee, except for the front office-player division.

"Everyone knows he wants the money" -- pulled that one out of your ass? The only thing we've heard on the subject is that he doesn't think Denver's future is as bright as his friends (Wade & crew) and that he'd like to go to New York to form a team with Amare and CP3.

 

This is how your supposed to handle your star player if he wants to bolt. The Nuggets didn't back down and were smart about not losing their franchise player for nothing.

You see that Cleveland and Toronto, that's how you do business.

 

"Puts on Flame suite"

If by some chance Melo was to go to the nets.. Could we swing a trade that would bring

Yao > Nets
Melo > Nets

Brooks > Houston

Picks/Combination of players from both HOU + NJ > Denver...

 

Are you implying that we trade Yao and Brooks for Melo?

 

That last part is definitely not happening. No team will be so pissed off that they let a player walk when they could at least a little of it. The NBA is a business.

I agree there is a chance Melo resigns might change depending on the new rules but winning is still important. If he really thinks they have no future he wont resign.