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[Yahoo!] Carmelo privately expressing more enthusiasm to join Rockets than Knicks

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by ebu, Aug 23, 2010.

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  1. Stevierebel

    Stevierebel Member

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    They want young talent. We are going to have to give up two of Brooks, Hill, Budinger, Patterson on top of the expiring deals of Battier and Jeffries.

    Or if they think Martin is a solid long term player, he would replace Battier/Jeffries combo, we'd eliminate Brooks from the choices available.

    Then one or both New York picks will have to be thrown in.

    New Jersey is probably going to have to throw Favors into the deal if Denver is serious about young talent being necessary.

    Would the Clippers offer Gordon? Aminu would be likely in addition to salary making it work.
     
  2. cardpire

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    am i somehow the only one with enough common sense to realize that there is no way in hell that he wants to play for the nets? are you people crazy?

    if he's traded, it's to here, nyk (dont see how they have anything to give though), or the clippers.

    seems like here would be the obvious trading partner for the nuggets if melo truly does want to play here.
     
  3. Tom Bombadillo

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    Hmm. Brooks wouldn't seem like a great fit with Billups and Lawson still there.

    Is Courtney Lee not tradeable?
     
  4. Houston_Rockets

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    Hey Melo, 3 easy questions:

    Do you want to win????

    Do you think that the Clippers without Gordon/Griffin/Al-Farouq Aminu or 2 of these 3 can win a ring during your prime???

    Do you think that the Nets without Favors/Terrence Williams or both can win a ring during your prime???

    GOD MOREY all the way Baby

    PeAcE
     
  5. Tom Bombadillo

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    I don't know.

    Jay-Z
    Owner

    Devin Harris
    Terrence Williams
    Carmelo Anthony
    Troy Murphy
    Brook Lopez

    Is not bad at all...

    Morrow/Outlaw off the bench...
     
  6. Tom Bombadillo

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    That is very true... but If we have to give up Brooks, and who knows how strong Yao will be...
     
  7. OremLK

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    Brooks == Harris
    Martin > Williams
    Scola > Murphy
    Yao (if healthy) > Lopez

    Rockets bench > > > than anything the Nets have
     
  8. cardpire

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    i guess he'd be doing to an owner that's hellbent on winning and would be committed to making moves in the future, but that team is about 1/50th as likely to win a championship as melo's current team.
     
  9. Stevierebel

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    Lee can't be traded for 2 months after his trade here in multi-player deal.

    Brooks would go elsewhere.

    Hollinger just spoke of three team trade as his guess with Charlotte with Denver getting Dampier and then cutting him, Brooks would go to Charlotte.
     
  10. worzel gummidge

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    Another trade asset.

    The Nets will be in a transitional phase with a lot moving pieces until they get another franchise player.

    They tried to move JR Smith & Kenyon Martin last trade deadline. Getting under the tax will be a priority.

    So who knows what changes or how many facelifts that team will have before the trade deadline.
     
  11. lookitswillie

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    dont know if its been posted but http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=ApIoNFzg5ekJoU9lbaMPJ4e8vLYF?slug=aw-anthonynuggets082610

    Carmelo Anthony(notes) wants out of Denver, and World Wide Wes delivered that message to the Nuggets with all the delicacy of a jackhammer at Sunday morning services. Do yourself a favor and trade him, the agent told the organization weeks ago.

    Carmelo Anthony has made it clear to the Nuggets he wants a change of scenery.
    (NBAE/ Getty Images)

    Denver was furnished with a short list of teams and told to get to work. Yes, this how William Wesley and Leon Rose of CAA work now, thick with threats and ultimatums and a swagger suggesting that the sport belongs to them. After Anthony told owner-in-waiting Josh Kroenke that he still wanted out of Denver during a Sunday meeting, the Nuggets appear done trying to sell their All-Star forward on a contract extension.
    More From Adrian Wojnarowski

    * Kroenke's son tries to woo Anthony Aug 23, 2010

    This wasn’t a productive, nor particularly pleasant, meeting and multiple sources said it could turn out to be the point of no return for Anthony and the organization. Sources insist it’s no longer a matter of if the Nuggets trade Anthony, but when, where and for whom he’s traded for.

    “It’s almost a given they’re going to move him,” said a front-office executive who’s talked with the Nuggets and Anthony’s agents with CAA.

    Between the agents’ bullying and Anthony’s dismissive disposition in Sunday’s meeting, sources said Nuggets owner Stan Kroenke, Josh’s father, finally made a stand with CAA.

    Keep it up, and the Nuggets will never do a deal for one of your clients again.

    Try to dictate terms of a trade and we won’t move him.

    Keep up the heavy-handedness and you’ll get a war.

    Kroenke has decided to deal with CAA in a way most of the league is too fearful to try. Leon Rose, the agent who works with Wesley, backed down, sources said, and is willing to be more open-minded on potential trade destinations. Anthony wants to leave Denver and get his three-year, $65 million contract extension now. This partnership is rounding third and rapidly reaching disrepair. Denver is willing to trade Anthony, J.R. Smith(notes) and Kenyon Martin(notes), and start over again, sources said.

    The Nuggets made it clear to teams they want young players and draft picks for Anthony, league executives said. The New Jersey Nets and Los Angeles Clippers have emerged as the two most probable destinations for Anthony because they have assets that appeal to Denver. The geography works for Anthony because of his wife LaLa Vazquez’s entertainment career.

    Golden State and Houston are contenders, too. What’s more, the Charlotte Bobcats are a sleeper because of Anthony’s Brand Jordan shoe deal and the team’s ability to give the Nuggets a salary-dump proposal.

    Back in mid-July, the Kroenkes had to travel to New York for Anthony’s wedding to finally realize he no longer intended to sign their extension offer. The reception spiraled into an evening of Chris Paul(notes) and Anthony’s brother making toasts about a future partnership for Anthony and Paul in New York with the Knicks. With nothing to trade for Anthony, though, New York isn’t considered a strong contender in the eyes of Denver management.

    Few can be as strong-minded and willful as Stan Kroenke, and it doesn’t matter the Nuggets will be turned over to his son Josh by the end of the year. Stan still will be lording over the franchise, and the billionaire has shown an old-school ability to carry through on his convictions once you’ve lost him as an ally.

    With the way that CAA has tried to muscle and manipulate the market this summer, a source said Stan Kroenke, freshly approved as the St. Louis Rams owner, feels further emboldened in the NBA’s collective bargaining talks to push for a “franchise player” tag that teams could slap on superstars like the one the NFL uses. NBA owners are still far from seriously discussing that issue, but CAA’s manipulation of Anthony and Paul while under contract has become an increasingly sore subject within the league.

    For now, the departure of Denver general manager Mark Warkentien and the increased influence of Kroenke advisor Bret Bearup means there won’t be much of a fight within the organization to stay the course with Anthony, sources said. Denver has hired Masai Ujiri as its new GM, but he doesn’t arrive with the authority to make major moves. Things have deteriorated too fast and grown too nasty to believe Denver will turn back now. ‘Melo is on the market, and the bidding has begun.
     
  12. Raven

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    With this latest news about the Clippers, I think we're being played.
     
  13. worzel gummidge

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    If the Rockets lose Brooks.

    Do they try to get back a PG in the same trade, use their TE in another, or sign a free agent (Prigioni, Mills, ???)?

    Gerrson's heading over to Turkey to scout the Worlds but what's their reamining portion of the MLE, $1.365M?

    Max signing bonus would be $1,355,881 (5 year contract)? Fully non-guaranteed multi-year deals allow entire bonus paid in first year. Able to structure deals worth $2.7M for 1yr or $3.9M over 2 years or $5.3M over 3 years?
     
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    John Hollinger speculating on a possible Melo trade to Hou via twitter:

    http://twitter.com/johnhollinger/status/22218335822

     
  15. J.R.

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    sportsguy33 Fairest trade: Melo/JR/Billups to Houston for Brooks/Kev. Martin/J. Hill/Battier/Jeffries + NYK's 2012 #1 + $3 million. Denv saves $21 mill.
     
  16. Stevierebel

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    I would imagine they would do their best to bring in another pg. Don't know how but how comfortable would you feel with Lowry/Smith as your pgs? Bottom third of pg combos in the league...
     
  17. jason3333

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    ESPN'S hOLLINGER bout his melo opinion

    @johnhollinger If Nuggets do hold a Melo auction, my $$ is on Melo to Hou in a three-way with Charlotte -- Dampier to Den (gets under tax), Brooks to Cha


    i like that
     
  18. Tom Bombadillo

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    If Brooks goes to Charlotte, maybe we land DJ Augustin to play back-up PG?
     
  19. Fulgore

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    I got a feeling they will make the Rockets take Jr Smith also. This is going to be an interesting couple of weeks.
     
  20. johnnydeezy1

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    lol cool
    man i dnt wanna see aaron go!!! but if we have too :/
     
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