[Yahoo!] Carmelo privately expressing more enthusiasm to join Rockets than Knicks

He passes the ball a lot more than Melo does, he is a Superstar, IMO, Melo is not, he is a great scorer.

To me a Superstar does a lot more than just score, or defend, or rebound, but does a lot well.

DD

 

Espn just said what we already know that mello wants out, but I thought it was refreshing to hear them mention houston before new york on his desired destinations. Too make it even better right after the mello talk they went straight to yao ming coverage. Proclaiming another thing we all know, yaos foot is healed and he looked very very good for a 16 month layoff. I really believe that this is gonna be a special next couple of seasons because I truely believe that the doctors and yao have finally got it right. He looks confidant and a healthy all star yao is the only player that is really enticing to mello joining the rockets because as I have stated in the past with or without mello we only go as far as the big man can take us. With that said mello will be in houston just a gut feeling and this is going to be a special season. I can hope right.



ps. Its not hope if its reality :grin:

 

You are talking about an all around player, not a superstar. Superstars are products of adoration by massive amounts of fans.

 

dd, my definition of a superstar is pretty high also and by my account, anthony is a superstar. You are using you're "punk" theme to discredit the guy. kobe,paul,lbj,howard,wade,anthony,durant,willams,dirk,nash, and roy are superstars to me. After that, you throw in bosh,amare and guys like that. If anthony isnt a superstar, then you have to take durant,nash,and guys like that off the list.

In regards to martin, who cares? I mean what did he do for the kings in terms of winning games? Thats right, nothing. Anthony as a rookie took his team to the playoffs. Martin is a good player, but he's not in the same league as anthony.

 

melo, not mello

anywho I hope Yao will finally get back to normal and play a pretty much full season and have that injury bug off his back.

 

Only a Superstar can force their team trade them.

Playoff Stats
PPG 30.7
RPG 8.50
APG 3.3
EFF + 28.00
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/carmelo_anthony/

I would take those numbers in the playoffs any day. If we had him instead of Artest 2 years ago guess who would have beat the Lakers.

 

so.... we got carmelo yet?

 

Martin is literally in the same league as Anthony.

 

Melo out, man. It doesn't matter how to spell Melo as long as he's wearing red and yelo

 

Clearly Anthony is better than Martin, I am simply saying that if you get Melo, Martin doesn't fit, and Morey would have to make many more changes to the roster to get it right.

Right now the entire roster fits together, and everyone has a defined role, if you toss in Anthony that changes everything.

It is not as simple as many of you think to simply add a player and everyone falls into place.

Just look at Ariza last year for example, he did not quite fit...

DD

 

..or they could have Martin come off the bench.

 

I'm sorry. But Martin is too efficient with his offense to hit fit. Adelman's offense is all about spacing. Martin is a genius at moving to create space. That's why Adelman loves him so much. Martin is one of the most productive, if not the most productive, players in the game when you consider how much he touches the basketball, how many seconds the basketball is in his hands, versus his production with it.

The piece that really doesn't fit as well if we acquire Carmelo, is a shooting/scoring point guard. The ideal point guard with a Melo/Martin wing combo would be a point that could shoot it but who is willing to subvert his scoring role and be the primary playmaker for the wing players. If we get Melo, the next upgrade needs to come at point guard, either by Brooks becoming a playmaker more than a scorer, or by trading Brooks for a passing/playmaking point guard that can shoot when called upon. When you look at the pieces on our team, the least efficient piece in a starting lineup of Brooks/Martin/Melo/Yao/Scola is...............Brooks, because Brooks does not get to the FT line. And there are only so many shots to go around. I would much rather have Yao/Melo/Martin taking 20 shots a piece than I would have Yao/Melo/Brooks take 20 shots a piece.

 

by trading Brooks for a passing/playmaking point guard that can shoot when called upon.. CP3?

 

+ defend = Pablo Prigoni?
http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=154253

Possibly a free agent:
http://www.ballineurope.com/euroleague-transfers-table-5428/

 

Melo is clearly better than Martin. Problem being that all this Houston speculation is there only so that Denver can get some leverage on the negotiations. I think it is quite set that after what happened with the unholy trinity, if any superstar is going anwhere it will be New York.
Anyways, in case there is any chance that you can get a player like Carmelo Anthony, even if it is straight up for Kevin Martin i think that trade would command major adjustments such as trading Brooks and aquireing a better passer and defender on the PG position, both because of Melo hurting us in ball movement and perimeter defense.
If i had to go down and get the idea that we are getting Melo (resigned) i think it would take Martin and uno of the NY picks. then you have to get a combo of the other pick, Battier and Jeffries expiring contracts and Brooks and get here a PG that can fill those needs.

 

The question is does the Nuggets want Brooks?? I don't think so. They rather have Martin. Plus, if we trade Martin with his huge contract...we just need to add another unimportant pieces like Jeffries,but if we trade Brooks with his low contract....we probably have to throw in someone like Battier....so hell no....i rather give away Martin and still retain other important pieces.

 

I doubt that Prigioni is available, but i doubt even more that an NBA team will straight up give the starting job to him. Maybe Morey can ask Scola who will know better, but i don´t see this as a very viable option. Plus, there is also the fact that we need a team with an All-Star PG to accept another PG as teh main price for his best player, which is quite difficult.
As said before, if there is any chance for Carmelo to come here, it will most likely include Martin.

 

I disagreed on getting Melo and Kevin is wasted as a starter. With Melo in the post one on one, they CAN NOT double him...they absolutely can not leave Martin wide open for 3. And Martin is NOT the type that demand the ball or want the ball in his hands all the time....so it doesn't take away his game. In fact, i think him and Melo fit perfectly. I agreed it makes the perimeter defense weaker though....especially if you have Brooks in the lineup too.

So that's why i said if we ever do get Melo, then we need to move him to the 2 and start Battier. Or maybe start LEE at 2. Basically we need a good solid defender in the perimeter to help on D.

 

Carmelo and Rubio?

I know. I know.

 

Send AB to Denver and start Lowry. D problem solved.