[Yahoo!] Carmelo privately expressing more enthusiasm to join Rockets than Knicks

You forgot to add Chandler and Curry to their list. Now Chandler is not that bad but if he's your centerpiece - that's not good. And Curry... I'm telling you if you want to sink the Knicks ship go over to the Nuggets board and start pasting photoshopped pics of Curry in a Nuggets uni. The scars from that make it hard to overcome. At least our expiring filler can still give you some good minutes and are not just $11 miillon dollar lumps sitting at the end the bench as an example for all your young players.

 

Carmelo holds all the cards. We won't have to give up that much.

Because if Carmelo turns down the extension and asks for a trade, Denver isn't going to get much in return from anyone. It's the difference of getting him at the end of the season in an S&T or before the trade deadline.

How much is that worth? Not much for Denver to extract.

 

Lee,

I didn't say it was impossible for the Nets to trade for Carmelo and Nene, they would just have to give up half their 12 win team.

So the question is does Carmelo want to go play with Harris, Lopez, Nene and ... who? Outlaw? Morrow? You may think those first two guys are solid but that was the core that have won 34, 34, and 12 with a new and improved 2nd year supposed franchise center the past year.

Do you think Carmelo would sign an extension to play for a 40 win team at best, to forfeit his legacy or any shot of a legacy. I thought he wanted more exposure, more recognition. Not to waste away on some cellar dwelling team that would never have a shot to touch Miami.

All for what? So his wife can get a radio gig? So he can get some tickets for family to go watch him lose? I doubt he is that dumb. And if he isn't that dumb then he wouldn't sign an extension there, which was my point.

Or I could be totally wrong too. I mean, he COULD be that dumb.

 

I think its all moot at this point...Denver's not gonna make a deal like that without a GM because theres no one for the owner to fire if it doesnt work out.

I think if Melo gets dealt, itll happen in Feb at the deadline (or maybe next summer)...summer wouldnt be that great for us since our expiring deals will have expired( i believe thats how that works, no?)....not sure whether the trade exception would expire by then either....top all that off with the question mark surrounding Yao's health after a "full" season and his impending free agency.....ugh

 

I'm really sick and tired of those people who think getting Carmelo would make the team worse. How stupid is that?


The only way this team can be worse is if they traded one of the starting five not named Shane Battier. It makes sense if they make the trade, people. You traded Ariza and now Carmelo has expressed interest and you're telling me Shane would make this team better over Carmelo? Get real.

If Morey can find a way to make the deal without giving up anyone except Battier in the current line-up, then you make that trade 10 times out of 10.

 

While the idea behind your post is sound, it is not considering how the components all fit together.

If you get Melo, then Kevin Martin is wasted as a starter, because Melo needs the ball so much and Kevin does not play defense.

It is not as simple as putting 5 good players together, their games have to match.

If you get Melo, there will be a lot of change in the way EVERYONE fits together.

Brooks, Martin, Yao, Scola....everyone is effected.

Sometimes getting a better individual player can make the team worse.

DD

 

Kevin Martin will be fine. He can barely create his own shot to begin with so I doubt there will be that much conflict in the 40 or so games he plays next year.

 

i think there is more. like season ticket sales,and national tv,and of course playoffs

getting melo NOW, ensures HUGE sales in season tickets...if les wanted to pay lux tax on bosh, SURELY he will for a BETTER player in melo

common sense says melo>bosh,therefore money shouldnt be an issue

i honestly think if we get melo,this month, that somehow tnt will put rockets on more games asap

this is a no brainer. id rather have melo at 20 mil than martin at 13 mil. Martin doesnt excite the fan base nor get us on tv like Melo would. Brooks doesnt accomplish this either.

We need Yao,Melo and a few role players and the Toyota Center would be sold out the entire season.

 

start with a superior talent base and then you can work to balance the rotation. this could be through moving kev to the bench and having him be a super sub, or it could be through moving a very tradeable piece to find a fit later.

to you invalid point though, Kev works very well off the ball. He doesn't have to be a creator, and as we saw last year, he shy's away from it in crunch time. However, his shot is so good and he creates superior spacing when on the floor because of his range from three.

He would work very well with Melo.

 

Fair assessment, but here's one thing you're failing to grasp:

When you get an elite talent like Carmelo Anthony, you find guys to fit HIM -- not the other way around. You don't pass on him because the guys you currently have don't fit him! Star players are made available VERY RARELY.. it would be very stupid of us to pass up the ONE we could acquire, the ONE that actually wants to play for Houston, simply because he doesn't fit neatly into a square hole.

 

This may be off-topic, but I'll use the Miami Heat as an example. It could very well be Dwayne's team than you would say a Lebron's or Bosh's team. Lebron doesn't care about being the man anymore, all he cares about is winning championships.

If Carmelo is here, he will most likely be the "it" guy. K-mart will have no problems if A) he comes off the bench or B) Doesn't get as many touches, because he just got traded from a very bad Kings team that's going nowhere.


You can say Lebron and Wade and Bosh's game have to fit together, but you can't deny they will be a great team. I don't see the big difference if Melo was here. In fact, we would have a more complete team than the heat, plus what the above posters say that we would also get more National TV.

 

I disagree, because the one thing Kevin does well is score the ball, and with Melo taking over that role, Kevin would be wasted.

My entire point about Melo, is that if you get him, you have a lot more work to do in retooling the overall roster, because the team is built to play without a single focal point on offense and to funnel everything to Yao on defense.

Defense will not change, but offensively, with one guy dominating the ball (and one who does not pass much) you need other types of players around him.....Courtney Lee fits better than KMart IMO.

Kevin moves so much off the ball that he would be limited to standing at the 3pt line and watching Melo drive, because if he was moving, he would be bringing an extra defender into the space that Melo needs to get his shot off.

If you get Melo, it would be one of a few changes that Morey would have to make....to get the pieces to fit.

Where I differ with your opinion is that I don't believe Melo is worth the risk.

I do understand your point about going for the talent when it comes up though, I just think if you did that with Melo it would put the franchise back a bit while they have to retool the roster to account for his game.

DD

 

CHEMISTRY is a big issue
while our current team is "healed" i can see issues if Melo comes here
but we would have to trade players like Martin or Brooks who don't play defense

 

And Morey is allowed to make further trades after he acquires Carmelo, so tweaking the roster is no big deal. We're talking about a superstar who will be entering his five year window (27-32) of dominance next Spring. You absolutely cannot pass up a chance to acquire franchise players, in their prime, even if that means you have to reshuffle the deck. Seriously, for Carmelo, you reshuffle the deck until the boobs fall off the Queen. You do whatever it takes. Morey knows this. He gets it. Why don't you?

 

I hear ya, but I don't believe he is a Superstar, but a tier below that, not a guy that you build a franchise around, but a star player that needs others to get the job done.

A Superstar to me is a very very elite player, there are very few of them, IMO....

Another point, is that even with Melo, it all depends upon Yao......and since we don't know if he will hold up, I would wait to find out before making any rash decisions.

DD

 

lulz so whats lebron? not a superstar either?

 

If Melo was as good as Lebron we would not be having this conversation.

My standards for superstardom are pretty high.....

DD

 

Weird how Lebron left Cleveland...

 

Not really...but the way he left was weird.

DD

 

IF IT WAS jAMES we would have been saying: he is narcissistic.... and holds the ball...