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[Yahoo!] Carmelo privately expressing more enthusiasm to join Rockets than Knicks

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by ebu, Aug 23, 2010.

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  1. delishman

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    That is maybe the worst reasoning of all time. Jerome James got a massive contract for a reason too.. poor management.
     
  2. emjohn

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    Fair point


    WRONG

    Nene per 30: 6.8 rebounds, 0.9 blocks
    Dampier per 30: 9.3 rebounds, 1.8 blocks

    Using last year's stats. Nene has only produced at that relative rate 3 times in his career, Dampier has been consistent with his the past 7.

    Hilario has been very efficient with his scoring, but feasts off of close range opportunities.

    @$11M, Hilario is hardly a bargain compared to Dampier. If you're paying that much for a part time big, you may as well get Okafor.

    I think the trick is, you have to pay an expiring player all season. And the Nuggets are in the luxury tax. If they blew up the team trading Anthony, they'll be garbage, attendance and revenue will drop, and they'll want out of the luxury in a bad way.

    If someone's smart, they'll rope Cleveland or Toronto into the mix and offer Denver at least $11M as a TE.

    Savings now >>>>> Savings later
     
  3. HTown_TMac

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    So poor management is the reason AK got a massive contract? And how can you compare AK to Jerome James?
     
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    No surprise, but it looks like we're out of this for now.

     
  5. chenjy9

    chenjy9 Numbers Don't Lie
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    Inflated expectations (much like what many CF posters experience) and bad financial management is the reason AK got a massive contract. As far as comparing AK to Jerome James, it is easy; they are both OVERPAID. I suppose Curry, Milicic, Dampier got their contracts for a reason like AK did too? :rolleyes:
     
  6. HTown_TMac

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    AK produced at both ends of the court, and it wasnt until Boozer and Deron Williams came (along with injuries) that they start going down. He was a playmaker, rebounder, defender, shot blocker

    But you are right.. Inflated Expectations.
     
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    Don't be surprised if Morey starts putting the heat on the Nuggets by discussing trades with other teams involving our talent. The Nugs know if we make a deal and are no longer in the running that the value that they can get for Melo just went down the drain significantly. It puts the Knicks and Nets in an even more favorable position.
     
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    I doubt we would or should go after AK, I think we either sign another center and ride with what we got or go for iggy and still sign another center. I dont see AK putting us over the top i think people are just trade happy and want to make a trade for the hell of it without actually making us any better. :( I think what we got is just fine for now.
     
  9. chenjy9

    chenjy9 Numbers Don't Lie
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    AK is a playmaker on a bad team. He is not an excellent shooter, post player, or ball handler by any means. He is good defensively, but that hardly justifies his ugly contract. Isn't he also pretty old now?
     
  10. HTown_TMac

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    Now I do believe his contract is more than he is worth, but its not like he was garbage, he was producing. He's a playmaker regardless of what kind of team, except a team with a point guard with the Deron Williams skills. Hes a decent shotter, and ball handler. He was one of the best defenders in the league..

    And he is 29.. 3 years younger than Battier.
     
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    AK47 is Battier without three point shot but more shotblocking. I dont see the need to get him for such a huge contract upgrade and no real wins upgrade. Maybe you win one more game next year because of AK47. Maybe.
     
  12. HTown_TMac

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    BTW, I'm not for getting AK47
     
  13. emjohn

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    They're really not comparable.

    Battier is a very traditional defensive 3. He's a spot up shooter only on offense, and a strong man to man defender with his positioning. Steady and predictable, with an obvious ceiling.

    AK47 is a streaky X-factor that thrives entirely off of hustle plays around the basket and as a roaming help defender on defense.

    On the right team, guys like AK47 can be a terrifying threat that puts a good team over the hump. But just as easily, he can spend an entire season frustrated and unable to mesh. Both extremes have taken place for him in Utah.

    At $18M, he's mainly worthwhile for his expiring deal. I don't see any real need for him.
     
  14. thetatomatis

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    Point taken. We may need that expiring money for Brooks in this offseason. I think some of us are gonna be surprised at how much a 19 points a game or 18 point guard might command in salary. Some of us are not that high on Brooks and are definately gonna be less high when we probably see the going rate.
     
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    That increase in payment is why we should consider moving him at the deadline. He isn't worth the the ~9-10mil he'll command, imo.
     
  16. thegary

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    he'll cost more than that, i guess.
     
  17. HorneR

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    Maybe so, and, imo, he isn't worth nearly that much. In this situation, I personally would sell high.
     
  18. J.R.

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    I know we have the other thread by Mannix saying Rockets are out but could get back in but Ken Berger says Rockets have tried to get in but 'Melo not interested in Houston.
     
  19. desi tmac91

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    It appears Melo has his heart set on New York and Chicago. Maybe if this whole thing drags on into the season, Melo will include Houston and/or New Jersey back on his list.
     
  20. J.R.

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    Maybe, maybe not. You're right, it appears NY is what he's set on. NY is the place and one will have to convince him otherwise.
     
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