[Yahoo!] Carmelo privately expressing more enthusiasm to join Rockets than Knicks

I think it's the other way... GS owes the top 7 protected pick to the Nets.
http://realgm.com/src_future_draftpicks.php

 

that would make it tough to deal either way seeing as how G State is usually a lotto shoe in

 

Dammit! You're right. And I used that particular web page as a reference.

That'll show me for quickly posting without more carefully reading.

Sorry for the misinformation, guys!

 

Yeah the nets have 3 first rounders in the next 2 years like us.

 

How much influence does Avery have?

 

If Melo would sign an extension w the Nets, the deal would be done already...i just hope that the same cant be said for us

 

If the Nets don't include Favors, they're dead in the water. I can't blame them for making Lopez untouchable and sympathize that Favors could come up huge for them - they could regret sending him out in a big way.

They can send good draft picks, so that helps.

But Murphy and Humphries alone isn't going to get it done - they represent $15M in expiring, but Denver is solidly in luxury tax territory and doesn't want what would virtually be a $95M payroll for a 35 win team (and box office poison). If they send Murphy to CLE/TOR and money launder him into a $12M TE, Denver will be more interested....but there's no young player worthwhile coming over.

Harris is overrated and pointless on a team with Billups and Lawson. I'd go so far as to say I'd rather have Lawson than Harris even if the money were equal.
Outlaw is really overpaid.
Most of what's left is mediocre.

No Favors = no Anthony, IMO

 

Isn't it strange that all the other teams are holding on to their YOUNG talent over tossing everything on the table to get Melo.

Pretty telling isn't it?

Because if it was Lebron or a real superstar, they would be happy to include Favors etc.

The Rockets are surely noticing this, no need to even offer any of our starters at this point.

DD

 

I agree altho I think the Nets have offered up Favors but the sticking point is that Melo wont sign in NJ.

Also, our young superstars, outside of AB, probably arent looked upon in the same light as Favors, Gallo, Noah thoughout the league in terms of talent and value based on what they earn

 

I'd offer Battier, especially since Melo would be playing most of the minutes at the three.

 

just curious, what if rockets were not giving up one piece for melo, and the denver gm just hangs up and calls ny and they are ready to give them what they want and they agree over the phone. Even if denver would still like the package the rox would give if morey would budge, could a deal still be worked or when verbal agreements are done a trade is done. I know they send in trades for the league to review but could is there a period where a trade can be changed. Im just curious because i remember when we got kevin martin, i remember tmac going to the kings but then all of a sudden knicks joined in for the 3 team trade.

 

http://www.associatedcontent.com/ar...anthony_new_york_knicks_trade_pg2.html?cat=14

Thats 2 down(Knicks and Bulls), 1 to go(Nets).

Page two of the article also says that the Nets aren't putting their best foot forward in hopes of signing Melo in the upcoming free agency. If thats true, we are in luck. Melo isnt gonna make it to free agency, Nets, he's gonna be a Rocket!

 

id like to agree but i think if it gets to where Melo doesnt get dealt before camp opens, it means 2 things....

1 - Melo will become a FA next summer
2- Melo will force the Nugs hand in a sign and trade with NY

 

1 is actually not a bad result, by the way. Melo might join the Knicks, which affects the 2012 pick, but if he's not a Knicks this year, there's no effect on the 2011 pick.

BTW, heard anything more from you NYK pal?

 

There's a BIG risk with the latter strategy. Sure, it is quite probable that a sign-and-trade in the summer of 2011 (as opposed to an "extend-and-trade" between now and February) would still result in Melo getting more money than if he signed outright with New York, he would likely stand to make MUCH less under the new CBA than had he agreed to take the extension on the table and/or agree to an "extend-and-trade" now or before February.

 

Spoiler

Basically, we got one of those going on.

 

Maybe others aren't offering their young talent because they don't have a suitable replacement and aren't trying to win now. We have Lowry for Brooks, Lee for Martin and Melo replaces whatever SF is shipped out. Who replaces Noah? Who replaces Favors or Lopez?

 

This.

Bigs are hard to come by.

We would trade AB for Lopez, Favors, or Noah.

 

For Lopez sure, but not for the others.......

It is a guards and wings league now, not a forwards and centers one....they are now luxuries or complimentary pieces.

The new rules favor those that can dribble.

DD

 

Problem here is we don't have to trade those players. A good GM should see that because no other team is offering up good young talent that they don't have to either, plus it all depends where Melo is willing to resign. If he doesn't want to resign with the Nets we DO NOT have to beat their "potential" offer. If Bulls are unwilling to trade Noah, we can beat their offer without Martin, again assuming he wants to resign with us. This is precisely why I think Morey is not interested in dealing Martin. Why overpay when you don't have to? Everyday this drags on the worse and worse return Denver is going to get.

And do you really expect the same production from Lowry/Lee as you do from AB/Martin respectively? AB and Martin are good fits for the Rockets because they can shoot and they are efficient, IMO they mesh well with Yao much better.