Just have to add that all the extra stuff was thrown on. You just paid the price of the 160GB PS3, which is $499.
I have had the rrod problem once but a more frequent problem for me has been the disc drive messing up. I am currently on my 2nd xbox (4 months old) and the disc drive is already breaking down. However my PS3 does the same thing.
I got MSG4 in my bundle and never played it. If anyone wants MSG4 and some $$$ I really want an extra DualShock controller. From what I understand they have taken away SACD and PS2 compatability. That would be a huge minus for me. If they sell a model with those on it then buy that one.
Actually, for the PS3, it isn't. You could certainly do okay with 80gb, but the PS3 often caches A LOT of game data to run off the hard drive to improve performance. Some games will literally cache 4gb of data. I upgraded from my 60gb drive to a 160gb so I didn't have to worry about space issues anymore. And I don't even keep media on my drive... just game data, saves, demos, and 2 or 3 PSN games.
stupid blutooth on the ps3 now i have to use a separate remote to watch blu-rays instead of my harmony (no way am I going to drop extra cash for the blutooth to infrared converter) the ps3 remote is worth it imo (but then again i got mine for free) even though you can use the controller easily, I am watching a movie, I like to use a remote I only like using a controller when I am playing a video game. but then again i didnt buy the ps3 to play games on (still dont own a ps3 game, i forget I have one at times) i just bought it to watch movies on
Hmm...I don't know. I guess I'd agree that 80GB isn't a ton of space, but I don't think he should have many problems with it (unless he wants to store media). I have ~20GB free on my 60GB HDD. I have around 25 downloadable titles (demos + PSN games), most of which should probably be deleted. I recently cleared off some game data, but primarily because I haven't played some of the game in a while (mostly MGS4, which takes up a lot of space). A ton of save data (I'm horrible about overwriting save data). About 20 HD videos (including Sony's E3 2008), and some music. I suppose if I played some more games that cached to the HDD, and played them all at once, it could be an issue.
My 60GB has about 10GB of free space left, but if I clear off some movies I should be at about half again Get a 60GB with full backwards
Get the one with PS2 compatibility and small hard drive, then upgrade the hard drive. I got a 320 gig drive for my PS3 for under $60.00. To those who say 80 gigs is more than enough, it really is not. When I had a 60 gig drive it filled up very fast and I was constantly having to delete things. Not a problem anymore.
I rarely play my 360 but have one because you can play bootleg games on it. I'm not paying an arm and a leg just to play a game. Get the new "Jasper" version of the 360 that just came out. It has 65nm CPU and GPU and is ring of death proof.
If you're diligent about deleting game data you don't think you'll need anymore then yeah, you should be fine. But in my case, I have a stupidly huge library of games, and I like to keep all my game data on there until I actually sell the game... since I quite often have a really random urge to pick up a game I haven't touched for 6 months. I was at the point where I had 8GB of space left before I upgraded to a 160GB, and that was with one PSN PS3 game and 2 PSN games on my system, with virtually no media at all. I suppose it's all just a matter of how many games you have. If you only have like 8-10 games you're fine. I have 33 PS3 games, most of which I won't bother selling for awhile (besides sports games... but in those cases I'll just buy the new ones).
Yeah, that probably has something to do with it. I only have about 8 games IIRC (although I probably have played 15-20 I guess), so I don't end up using nearly as much game data in general. And even if I do, I don't usually play multiple games at once, so it is easy for me to minimize how much space gets used by my games. It is cheap to upgrade the HDD, so I certainly don't see a problem with doing so. But if he wants to avoid doing that, he can probably get by with just a 80GB HDD.
