Xbox 360 leads April sales + KH2 surpasses 1M sold

Why do people want the PSP... just buy an Ipod. The games on it are trash.

 

for $130 bucks, a PS2 can do alot for you. plus, there are great games that are under $20 you can play. i think the plethora of great games is worth it alone.

 

who the hell doesn't have a ps2 right about now?

 

I don't! I'm a happy Xbox and GC owner thank you.

 

Don't have one in the house. Have several Sony products (a great company!), but not a game platform. Gotta Gamecube, a DS, and a 360. I've actually had fun with the Xbox 360. (they are all for my kids... I'm a PC RTS guy) There's this game where you crash cars on purpose, then they blow up. The winner is the one who destroys the largest dollar amount in innocent vehicles. Great fun!

 

Burnout.

 

That's it! Burnout Revenge. HDTV, wireless controllers, and destroying cars... groovy!

 

why is that? i have a ps2 slim and plan on keeping it for awhile because sony is going to support that thing for anohter 4-5 yrs...

nice little trinity ps2/xbox360/wii

 

I have a PSP and it never gets played. The games on it are just not worth it right now.

I'll be buying a DS Lite this weekend.

 

You're talking like total titles combined?

That doesn't really say much.

 

They got decent scores because they are decent made games but they aren't games that you play alot or play when you go out. The PSP has a small battery life also, and I think there is only a minority who use it for games. Don't forget that many of those games are ports.

 

I don't know. I still think it's a fair criticism. The hardware is still outstanding, but that can only get you so far. It should say something that most of the time comments about lackluster PSP games actually comes from PSP owners.

It's not so much the quality of the games....it's just that the games were of decent quality when they were on the PS2. If you want to go by gamerankings, look at the top titles overall for PSP.

Lumines
Wipeout Pure
Syphon Filter
Ridge Racer
Grand Theft Auto

Nothing on the PSP is above 90% either, BTW. And 3 of those five came out at launch. Wipeout, Syphon Filter, Ridge Racer, Grand Theft Auto...for a system with such a hardware advantage, there is nothing unique or to get excited about there. Particularly when, up until recently, you could pay the same amount of money and get a more advanced version for the actual console.

Heck, look at the recent push of Liberty City Stories to PS2 for 20 bucks. Yet, had you bought this for your PSP at launch, you'd have paid 40-50 bucks for it.

It's also interesting you decided to just go by the last six months. However, it still proves my point. 44 PSP titles to 19 on the DS? That's exactly why I said the total software sales didn't mean much. It's just getting spread thin by sheer quantity. And yet with that kind of numbers disparity, PSP has yet to crack a 90% average or get more games above 85% than the DS.

Sorry, RC; I agree that there is a lot of criticism that is unwarranted (not your GC one, though. "Kiddie Games" is too simplistic and ignorant, true, but they definitely did not focus on a wide enough market.). But in this case, imo, for the most part this one is true.

 

Maybe I should restate what I said.

There are very few PSP games that I would pay full price for.

I don't even have my DS yet and I've already purchased more games for that system than I have for my PSP. That being said there ARE a couple of games I'll be getting for PSP even though they'll be on DS.

 

Yeah, I figured as much. I guess most of the PSP games haven't made me divert attention from my other gaming machines. I'm looking forward to playing Lego Star Wars before class this fall, though.

 

I'd say that, much like Nintendo's attempt at connectivity (which I find funny that Sony is now trying to push) with the GBA, the amount of people who actually made any serious use of that feature is minimal. Beyond that, there might not be anything wrong with the 'console experience' on the handheld...if you weren't practically paying a console price for that handheld and the console price for the games. Then it becomes redundant. You have to give more than a swap of a few features here and there and just saying 'well it's portable' if you want people to feel like they made a good purchase. You have to give them some sort of experience that is unique to the system they bought. Particularly if you made them pay enough for it. I think that's where a lot of folks are feeling a little soured.

Again, this isn't something pulled out of thin air. You have a lot of PSP owners themselves who frequently make comments on how they haven't touched their PSP much (heh). And I have been seeing a lot of these systems used in game stores.

There is still a valid criticism there.

For a system that's been out now for a while, with nearly 250+ games (as you've stated), and considering you are discussing the 'quality' games for the system, then yes, it is reasonable to expect.

Certainly it is debatable. But it is still Wipeout, Ridge Racer and Syphon Filter. Hardly the kind of thing that's going to make your average PSP owner (which, I believe is often the extension of the average PS2 owner) go crazy about. Again, if we're talking quality titles here, and the perception of such, I don't think these titles will (or have) changed anything.

Not really. What kind of userbase are we talking for all this PSP GTA online playability?

I kind of think it's a bit of a slap in the face to the PSP owner.

I didn't bring in the time limit, nor gamerankings. I think you mentioned software sales for a month in the first place, so, considering that kind of timeframe, yes, there is definitely a numbers disparity. And yes, 90% (if we're bringing in gamerankings) isn't beyond reasonable expectation at this point.

As for looking at 85%; if we're talking about the quality of games, shouldn't pushing toward the higher percentage make the most sense? In all honesty, we should be looking at 90+ if you want to talk about great games (which is what you describe below).

But I didn't go with that...for reasons I'm sure you recognize.

I'd say they go hand in hand. By not broadening their focus, or making an attempt to add diversity, they kind of brought the label onto themselves. But you are right, the 'nothing but' thing is incorrect and a mislabel. But heck, that's a topic for...even another thread, I guess. Much like this one.

I still don't see where I can agree that the PSP has a 'lot of great games.' However, I can see your main point, but if what brought this up is the fact that this criticism is leveled at the PSP frequently, and if there is a valid reasoning behind it, then I say yes, there is.

 

So you believe, what...that all those folks who say they haven't really used their PSPs much (for games other than homebrew) are just making it up? You say you don't believe it is true; but all you can really throw out there are just (usually) lesser versions of their console cousins. You really don't see how this can not excite a large portion of the PSP owners?

And yes, Lumines, Meteos, PW...those are quality games. The average gamer will probably ignore them, of course, so that won't help perception much. But a definite *lack* of these types games on the PSP is the whole point. I don't really think you can point to Ridge Racer (you're making the same mistake ol' Kaz does with that one, eh? ) and Wipeout and say 'this is the type of experience you can only get on PSP'; because in reality it isn't.

A lot of those folks who bought Ridge Racer and Wipeout (you know, way back at *launch*) are still the ones who feel they don't have much to play on their PSP. Of course they sold well. There are still a lot of PSP units out there. They've got to buy something for it.

To put it simply, if you look at the shelf and see Star Wars Battlefront, Ridge Racer and Need for Speed, then look over at the PS2 shelf and see the same thing (for almost or exactly the same price), you aren't going to be too impressed by the PSP library.

FWIW, Lumines and Loco Roco are some titles to at least be excited about, definitely.

And for clarification on the sales a month thing; I never said the DS SW sold more; you brought up the DS and the May sales, not me. I did say that more total titles have been sold - especially when there's the kind of 44 to 19 disparity like the last six months (which, again, you brought up) doesn't mean much. I mean, for a good chunk of time right after the DS's release there was nothing out there either. Just because there have been a lot of titles shoved out in the last six months doesn't prove your point either way.

I'm not sure why you brought up the DS in the first place. McGrady brought up the Ipod. I can definitely agree with you that the PSP has more quality games than the Ipod.