I remember when he said. I think it was two years ago. It's called a cheap pop. Mick Foley would always use that cheap pop. He would say something like "we could do this tonight........Right here in HOUSTON, TEXAS. (or whatever city).
Yep he really is Sean Morley. I guess the p*rn star thing has run it's course, although BuhBuh did manage to get a good laugh out of mentioning it. *reading spoilers of Smackdown* AAAUUUUGGGGHHHH!! And yet another oaf who doesn't deserve squat takes a main event spot from a more deserving person (most likely). Vince just never learns.
First of all yes I'm talking about Hogan. The guy's a stiff and has been for almost a decade, can't draw anymore, and yet still demands top billing just because of name recognition. While I applaud him putting over guys on his most recent tenure (Rock, Lesnar, Undertaker), I just don't see what the point is. Smackdown is currently (IMHO) the better show with the better talent, so why put on Hogan? With Angle and Benoit putting out ***** matches almost on demand, talented cruiserweights, and an awfully good midcard, the return of Hogan and Undertaker is going to clutter up the scene and delay the push of deserving people. Second of all, Victoria's mad dog in the wrestling world is Steven Richards (I still call him Big Stevie Cool from his ECW days). Unless I'm missing something.
Did anyone notice how the Rock was booed soo badly at the Raw X Anniversary? Are they trying to change his character to be a heel now? He was such a bore during his little tidbit on that show. His ass should of showed up and did all that ranting and hollaaring. And also when the Rock went off on Stephanie McMahon, she didn't look like she was in character. She was just smiling it off and you know she was pissed on the inside... Hopefully SCSA and the Rock can turn this WWE crap around... In other news.... WWE parts ways with Raven, Justin Credible World Wrestling Entertainment Inc., has released Raven and Justin Credible from their contracts. WWE wishes both men good luck in their future endeavours. I liked Justin Credible in ECW. When he came to the WWE, he was just a low-rated wrester and ended up like Tazz...a nobody.
And some more interesting news from lordsofpain.net: - For those wondering, the current plan is to have Ric Flair, Triple H, Batista, and Randy Orton as a 4-Horsemen like stable on RAW. The idea came about almost a year ago and was finally put together last night on RAW as anyone can plainly see. At this point, there's no guarantee that they'll be referred to as the new 4-Horsemen, but that is the stable-gimmick they will be portraying. - Stephanie McMahon's counter "atomic-bombshell" announcement will be that The Rock is coming back to SmackDown! at No Way Out. At this point, the plan is to bring Rock back as a heel. There is a possibility of a babyface return and then gradually turn him heel depending on how he is received upon return. He could have up to six months to work a WWE schedule this run, which many think he won't be doing. - Whether Shane McMahon "takes over RAW" as the new General Manager playing off the current storyline, there are no plans to remove Eric Bischoff from television. Bischoff will remain an on-air talent for RAW despite the current plan to replace him with Shane as GM.
Something makes me highly skeptical of this, at least for this week. Maybe it has something to do with the Smackdown Spoilers I just read.
According to a spoiler that I read, Hogan got another ten minute standing ovation. Apparently Hulkamania still is running wild, that's why. So what's with all this "can't draw" business I keep reading from all the smarks? The crowds are a sea of Hogan t-shirts and the guy gets bigger pops than anyone on the roster right now. Besides, if it weren't for him, we'd probably be getting tape delayed "wrasslin'" on some public access channel at two in the morning and the fanbase would not even be a quarter of what it is now.
Because when his nostalgia trip championship was in full swing last year, the WWE had the worst quarter of the year that's why I say he can't draw. Sure he can pop a crowd, but he doesn't make people come out to see him wrestle every night. Rikishi pops a crowd to, do you want to put the belt on him? And, I said he hasn't drawn for most of the past decade. When he first arrived in the WWF, his character was so larger than life that he did draw then. Wrestling was about gimmicks, and he had the best gimmick. However, his character hasn't changed since then except for his NWO days. But now he's going back to the old school Hulk Hogan and his Hulkamaniacs like it was 1986 all over again. Meanwhile guys who can actually, you know, WRESTLE are pushed back to make room for him. So, basically, yes Hogan was good for the business 15 years ago and did make wrestling mainstream, bvut he oughta know when to say enough is enough. The "sport" and it's fans have changed but he hasn't.
Not fair. The WWE had just lost its two biggest draws (Austin and Rock) and the rosters had been further diminished by the roster split. This argument could just as easily be turned around to argue that internet darlings Benoit & Jericho can't draw either. Why not? Push the guys that the fans get behind. His main event run as a heel did bomb though. Maybe he could do better as a face or if his promotion wasn't a gigantic letdown of a revelation ("hey, it was me that ran over Austin. No, I'm serious...")
Thanks for the spoilers, guys. Next time, start your post with "***SPOILERS***" so I don't read it. All kidding aside, back to Morley, he had to have the best name for a finishing move: "The money shot." What is it going to be now. . . "the Morley shot?" Another finish move name that I heard that made me bust out laughing is from Jamie Noble: "The Trailer Hitch." (you know, trailer trash. . .). I guess if Hugh Morris (a.k.a General Rection) can change his name back to Bill DeMott, Morley thought he could change his name. What's next . . . appearances by Dwayne Johnson? Terry Bollea? Steve Williams?
They need one more for the Horsemen. Flair could be the manager type (Dillon). Batista gets the secondary spot between HHH, and someone should team with Orton to go after the tag titles.
Unfortunately Matt and Cena are both fairly up and coming stars on Smackdown, so I doubt they'd bring them over to RAW to start over again (almost). The is the WWE though, home of an 80 year old woman giving birth to a hand, so you never know. Now my respose to AntiSonic. First, boy it's fun to actually have an intelligent conversation about wrestling with someone. Second, Benoit has never been WWE champ, so you can't say he hasn't drawn because he's never been the focal point of the show. Jericho actually did draw the first couple of months until January, when everyone and their pet dog knew he was going to be set up to drop the belt to HHH. That, combined with him playing second fiddle and lapdog to Stephanie McMahon, made him into a lame duck that no one cared about. Now onto Hogan. He was champ as a face, so there isn't any debate about whether or not he'd draw better as a face. And you didn't address my drawing point and comparison to Rikishi. I meant to say that like Rikishi, Hogan can pop the crowd that he is given through his antics, but he doesn't make people want to shell out the money to see him anymore. Of course, this is just IMHO. To me he just needs to be relegated to a midcarder that can pop a crowd and turn the reins over to the new generation. Otherwise when he, the Rock, HHH, and Austin retire for good, who's left? Not really anyone except Angle.
Rotflmao! Hey, ditto. As per drawing power; sorry, I tried really really hard to come up with an argument, but damnit, I can't find a decent site with complete buy rate and attendence figures! Every site I go to is missing key events(Rumble, NWO, & Judgment Day '02). It's getting late, maybe tomorrow... Conceded to you until then. Oops. Sorry about the wording, but the last paragraph in my previous post actually was referring to Rikishi and his heel run as the guy that came out of left field and ran over Stone Cold. My argument was that perhaps if guys the fans were solidly behind were given a good push backed with a compelling story (a la Hogan), they could potentially boost a buyrate. Rikishi's main event run sucked (imho) from the get go, because a bigger name was expected to have been the attacker and we were given the loveable fat guy who dances (don't get me wrong, it was a big surprise and the plot was interesting enough("I did it for the Rock and other held-down minorities"), but it just wasn't the right time or story for a guy like Rikishi). Regarding Hogan again: how many times is this guy supposed to pass the torch? Warrior, Goldberg, Rock, and Lesnar have all picked up clean jobs from him. Your idea of putting him in the midcard to get guys over is nice, but how much is a win over him really worth nowadays? Also, the buildup to his main events last year (post-WrestleMania, of course) were severely lacking. I still think that if given a good program (like, an Austin 3:16 vs. Hulkamania feud for example, where not only do you have the two biggest names ever, you have characters that would be completely at odds with one another(though it remains to be seen how willing Austin would be to work with him considrering their WCW history)) he has a monster buy rate or two left in him. But what do I know? I'm just a Hogan mark.
Boy it's fun being a Smart (or Smark, since I still enjoy watching it..most of the time). OK I see now where you were going. However, Rikishi couldn't draw as a heel or face. Yes they probably should have left him as the sole conspirator in the Austin thing rather than throwing in HHH (boy, that seems to happen a lot). However, as a face the highest up the card he's been in the past year and a half outside of a couple token "World Title" matches that you probably knew he wasn't going to win was as Lesnar's job boy. That and his affiliation with 2 Cool was just about it. To equate it to the movies Rikishi strikes me as a Jeremy Piven: great supporting actor, but he has difficulty carrying the movie on his own (forgetting PCU of course ). As to Hogan, a lot of people who are wrestling fans remember him as the Immortal One, and are willing to still suspend disbelief enough to make him a valuable midcarder. Use him as a litmus test. Put your up and coming heels in a program with him. If the fans respond like crazy, have the feud last a couple months then have the heel go over in a cheating sort of way and then elevate as needed. So the heel gets heat, and Hogan is protected (since the heel had to CHEAT and all). If the fans don't respond, Hogan wins and the heel stays in the midcard to work on things. I don't know maybe I'm being overly simple but it's an idea.
Did anyone watch the Tough Enough III finale? Really, I thought all of the last four standing were qualified. I think John deserved to win the most of the four; given his acrobatics he has Jeff Hardy/RVD-type potential. That is probably why he was picked first, to leave the element of suspense. I really think Matt got over by the sympathy vote (for the shoot Holly did on him). Eric probably had more talent and the better look, and Jonah probably more talent with the mike. Nonetheless, it was a feel-good story for Matt to win, and wrestling is all about the storylines. Matt and RVD might be a good tag team as the "dude" brothers. What do you think are the odds of a Holly/Matt match in the future? With a cheap Matt revenge win by roll-up?
