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WWE (version 2.0)

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by AntiSonic, Dec 14, 2002.

  1. gr8-1

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    Sting/Rock, Sting/SCSA, Sting/HHH, STing/HBK drooollll........ Let's hope they book him correctly. He should still be a main eventer.
     
  2. Refman

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    If anybody would know how to book Sting, it is people who have been in the business a long time.

    On Smackdown!, Paul Heyman could book him well.
    On RAW...it appears that Tommy Dreamer has joined the booking team...he would do a good job with Sting as well.
     
  3. gr8-1

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    Honestly, the only person Paul seems to book is himself or ecw. No thanks.
     
  4. rocks_fan

    rocks_fan Rookie

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    Actually gr8, Paul's been part of the booking committee on Smackdown for quite a while now. While it's not great right now, it's definitely better than RAW. As long as you can wrestle well and entertain, Paul will get you on air. It's more a matter of what he can get past the rest of the bookers (especially Stephie dear). They seem to be in love with the idea that they're writing a romantic action/drama/comedy, not a wrestling show. I don't know what it'll take to get back to the days of 97-98, but with Benoit, Edge, los Guerreros, Team Angle, Brock, apparently Kanyon, and the cruisers Smackdown seems to at least put on good wrestling when they want to.
     
  5. Refman

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    You nailed it. In fact, Paul is more concerned with putting together a good wrestling show. So much so that he went head to head with Brian Gerwitz and got himself suspended.
     
  6. Kam

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    I am going to play Booker.


    I dislike Goldberg very much, but I would love to see him in the WWE just one time, (or two.)

    This is what I suggest.

    At the No Way Out PPV, Austin is schedule to make his return and fight Bischoff. Of course, Bischoff isn't a wrestler, so he is going to need to get some help from Morley, and maybe a few other wrestlers. Say perhaps Goldberg.
    It costs Austin the Match, but at WrestleMania, it pits Austin vs Goldberg.

    At WrestleMania, Austin b**** slaps Goldberg around, and then Goldberg can do what ever the hell he wants to do because he is a chump and is not entertaining.

    Thank you.
     
  7. DVauthrin

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    I'd rather not see Goldberg at all if it's going to play out like your situation, Kam.

    Goldberg is cool, in my opinion, and the "spear" is one of the sweetest moves in wrestling.

    Also, I liked Booker T when he was in WCW and did all his karate style stuff. Plus watching Rey Mysterio Jr wrestle was sweet.
     
  8. Dave2000

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    Interesting, according to 411 Wrestling

    Dave Meltzer reports that Goldberg is closer than ever to signing with WWE. No other details are available.

    Credit: WrestlingObserver.com

    Hmmm, maybe just in time for the PPV. Kam you are a GENIUS!!!

    Another side note, Tough Enough 3 Jonah made his debut in NWA TNA last wednesday. Interesting that the WWE let him go that quickly.
     
  9. rocks_fan

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    First, if I had to guess (and guess is all it is), Jonah didn't sign a long term deal with NWA (6 months or so, for example) just to get the ring time. He seemed awfully sure that he was going to be in the WWE before long, and I'm willing to bet WWE saw how much potential he had. However, they don't have a spot for him right now outside of OVW (shoot, Matt and John haven't appeared outside of their one little exhibition) and it's bad publicity to have a popular TE guy in the minors. So, he goes to NWA to get some ring and camera time.

    As for Mr. Goldberg, I personally wouldn't touch him with the proverbial 10 ft. pole. He hasn't wrestled in America in about 3 years, is injury prone, and works sloppy and stiff (ask Bret Hart). He doesn't love wrestling, he just sees it as a meal ticket since the whole movie gig hasn't panned out too well. Finally, if he only works 2 or 3 dates a month (PPV and maybe 2 TV shows) and makes all this money, what's going to happen when guys like RVD, Booker T, Angle, or Jericho (even though he just signed an extention) end their contracts and want big bucks for working 15-20 days a month only to be told no? The potential gains are outweighed by the drawbacks IMHO.
     
  10. Refman

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    You said it perfectly. It's pretty hard to reconcile what Goldberg would be making per show, compared to the per show payoffs that the main event talent is bringing in right now.
     
  11. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    They could reconcile it by showing the other stars the buy rates before and after he signs. I would guess with Goldberg they would be significantly higher. Eventually I would guess that he will end up working a few more dates than he wants for a bit less money.
     
  12. Refman

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    They aren't going to be THAT much higher. Not enough to explain away gross payoffs differentials. McMahon would be putting a lit torch on a powderkeg and he knows it. That is why it hasn't happened to this point.
     
  13. gr8-1

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    I think I'm the only non-wwe guy. So, I understand. Godberg was HUGE in wcw; anyone remember the take over show? The Goldberg chants were voluntary. If Vince paid Goldberg 2 million to show up to wrestlemaia, Vince still makes money. **** jobbing, etc., wrestling is rehearsed. People pay tickets for the persona. Goldberg is money.
     
  14. gr8-1

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    Goldberg/ddp isn't high, and never will be. However, Goldberg/Hogan in 99 was very highly rated, and this wass while the wwf turned the tide. Face it refman. Goldberg is a huge draw. Learn to live with it. Goldberg was a huge draw in wcw, and he, if booked correctly, would eclipse scsa or the rock. Sucks, huh?
     
  15. Rockets34Legend

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    Check this out:

    http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/2003/articles/1045945558.php

    There are currently some late discussions between WWE and Goldberg's people to possibly have Goldberg make some sort of appearance at No Way Out. This is probably why you've seen the reports of negotiations between both sides speeding up. WWE is pushing hard because they set a personal deadline to finish negotiations this week whether they successfully sign him or not. Goldberg is known for negotiating at the last minute, so many expect he will sign in time to be on television leading into WrestleMania. Whether or not the deal is finalized for Goldberg to make an appearance at No Way Out has yet to be seen.

    We just might see him before Wrestlemania...:D
     
  16. Rockets34Legend

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    And these:

    http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/2003/articles/1045525198.php

    As many of you know by now, Triple H and Stephanie McMahon became engaged on Valentine's day. There is currently no date set for the wedding and no plans to work the engagement into the TV storylines. It would make sense to not include it since storyline wise, HHH & Stephanie have already been married and divorced, not to mention that HHH is the Raw's World Champion and Stephanie is the General Manager of Smackdown.

    And check this dumass out:

    http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/2003/articles/1045616350.php

    Nathan Jones missed the Smackdown house show in Winnipeg on Saturday night due to joking about having a bomb in his shoe at the Orlando airport in Florida. This wasn't something one should joke about in an airport when the United States's terror alert has been high lately, and he was detained immediately by officers there.
     
  17. Dave2000

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    Damn, once i heard about the engagment, you can count on Triple H being like the champion for the next 10-15 years. He will be like the 25 time champion, or something. Plus I dont like how they have title holds these days. I remember the times where a champion would hold the title for maybe almost half the year. Now, they switch hands almost every PPV, unless Triple H has it.

    Nathan Jones is going to be a force to be wrecken with. Saw him on a few WWA PPVs and held his one. He should be a hell of a rassler in WWE.
     
  18. Refman

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    I don't have a problem with Goldberg. I'd love to see him in WWE long term. I just don't believe that ANY wrestler is worth compromising the long term economic future of the company. Assume he gives Bill $2M for two shows. When he wants The Rock to come back and work a full WWE schedule, how much will it cost? This would blow the roof off the salary scale. Factor in the current economy...and WWE would be losing tons of money.
     
  19. Dave2000

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    Any thoughts on the PPV? Didnt watch it but read the reports. I honestly am surprise that they let Rock beat Hogan AGAIN. No Goldberg yet, but I still expect him at Wrestlemania. I swear that Triple H will not lose the title unless he dies or something. The heat between RVD and Kane is just dumb, fans dont wanna see that. Overall, I am glad i didnt pay to see it.
     
  20. rocks_fan

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    Wanted to watch it, but still couldn't bring myself to pay $35 for something only I'm going to watch. So, I went to go see Old School instead. However I've read some reports and my second hand thoughts.

    1) Vince revisits the Montreal screwjob. Wow Vince talk about creativity! Let it go man you fooled everyone once great, but stop pulling it out just to show how big a man you are. Apparently Rock has some big new elaborate entrance, I'll be looking forward to seeing that this week.

    2) HHH WINS?! Holy crap someone call the press! I never would have guessed HHH gets a win over Steiner. Someone PLEASE get that belt off HHH, he does nothing for it and makes everyone else look bad.

    3) HHH's buddy Regal keeps his belt TOO? I'm shocked! Plus, now they get to stick RVD with Kane for Wrestlemania, since heaven forbid someone more athletic and popular than HHH be main eventing.

    4) Matt Hardy over Kidman. Good, Matt (version 1.0) gets a belt he can hold onto, until he drops it to Shannon Moore on some pretext and split the two up.

    Also, apparently Goldberg is either signed or getting ready to. They still don't know who they're going to feud him with (eiahter Austin, HHH, or Rock). I'm really starting to wear thin with the whole unstoppable HHH thing on RAW. At least when Flair headed the Horsemen he would still lose big matches once in a while.
     

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