After grabbing 15 rebounds in a summer league game, Joey Dorsey is happy to report that he has just agreed to a 6 year, $42 million contract
CD didn't draft Cassell. And it was Bob Weinhaur who made the Drexler trade. I remember clearly how Drexler thanked Leslie Alexander and Bob for making the trade happen. CD came on board a couple of years later then traded Cassell for Barkley along with Horry and Chucky Brown.
CD deserves all the credit in the world for the various roles he took during the organization. However, what I am referring to how the Rockets basketball operated performed during the CD-as-GM era, particularly the post-Hakeem era. By the way, it's certainly not CD being the solely responsible party during that time, Les Alexander and Rudy T certainly had heavy input, too. I don't see why appreciating what CD did or respecting that CD (or Les or Rudy) was trying their best to win, or that they made some good decisions even during the post-Hakeem era, means we can't talk about the effect of their choices resulting in Kevin Cato, Mo Taylor, Moochie Norris, etc. Nothing wrong with respecting history or respecting CD, Rudy, or Les Alexander, but playing the "respect history" card to avoid looking at actual decisions made during the post-Hakeem years leading to Les Alexander's decision to install Morey is weak. When did CD become GM again? If you are going to play the history card, you might want to get the history correct.
Mike Jame I believe was a little higher salary but Steve Francis was low salary and Barry is about 2 million...CD's moves were signing players meantioned above that put us in salary cap hell for years. I love CD as a coach dont get me wrong what he did with Dream might have won us two titles and for that I will be enternally grateful yet you cant look passed the fact that he was the GM when the Rox went through a dark period under his watch. JVG came in and started getting all the junk out off the team sure he only won 2 games BUT we got into the playoffs and if JJ makes that 3 in the corner I say that series goes 7 atleast.
Huh? They weren't even in the same draft. Dream by himself couldn't win it. It's like having Jordan without Pjax and Pippen. CD pushed for RudyT as coach.
Before you supply a answer, maybe you should research a little. He became the gm in 92 or so. He drafted horry and cassell and I forgot if he made the trade for elie, that may have been patterson. He won 2 titles as gm and was the gm the last time they made it to a conf finals. I can admit he gambled and made some mistakes like griffin, drew, not drafting lewis, overpaying cato,taylor. In those mistakes, he also made a ball to the wall trade and got clyde and a few yrs later trying to squeeze another one got barkley. He also traded basically nothing and got fracis and drafted mobley in the 2nd rd. Overrall, people can make talk about how bad he was as a gm, but he has 2 titles not to mention he helped Hakeem out a lot. Make fun if you will, get you facts straight first.
CD takes over GM duty in May of '96 96-97 Playoffs: Lost NBA Western Conference Finals (4-2) Won NBA Western Conference Semifinals (4-3) Won NBA Western Conference First Round (3-0) 97-98 Lost NBA Western Conference First Round (3-2) 98-99 Lost NBA Western Conference First Round (3-1) 99-00 34-48 00-01 45-37 01-02 28-54 02-03 43-39 03-04 Lost NBA Western Conference First Round (4-1) 04-05 Lost NBA Western Conference First Round (4-3) 05-06 34-48 06-07 Lost NBA Western Conference First Round (4-3) (Morey "Assistant" GM) Based on his body of work, if mediocrity was the goal as a GM, then CD's way worked.
Like others are saying in this thread. CD was named General Manager in 1996... He was an assistant coach/director of player personnel guy during the championships. He was on the bench for the championships. How many gm's are on the bench and aren't the head coach. I am not saying CD didn't do anything great but Daryl has managed the team's salary a lot better and has yet to over pay for anyone. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carroll_Dawson
Another link outlining all of his moves as GM beginning in 1996... http://hoopshype.com/general_managers/carroll_dawson.htm
The Battier move set our team back 3 yrs. and proir to this the move to trade Richard Jefferson hurt us as well, in addition to the move to not draft Rashard Lewis. (imagine if we had Ariza and Gay now!) Many people give CD credit for putting together the championship roster but it was Steve Patterson not CD. CD made five good moves his whole career as the Rockets GM; Robert Horry, Sam Cassell, Clyde Drexler, Steve Francis, and Cuttino Mobley. Actually, I think Robert Horry was a Steve Patterson draft pick. The Rockets never draft well outside of Yao, which was obvious. When you can count the number of good moves on one hand over a 15 yr career, that is not good. DM is wise, he is not jumping into the deep in with every move but he is making calculated risk. Without Yao this year it is going to be difficult to win a championship, so ariza was an awesome move. Anderson is someone who can help now and definately in the future with Yao. The big test for him is going to be next off season. do you keep Tracy or let him walk. I think inspite of what the fans think, if healthy. You have to bring him back. Bosh is not going to anywhere, now that they have Turkolu and an improved roster. Wade isn't going to leave Miami for Houston, I wouldn't. LeBron, well we already know that isn't going to happen. So, that leave Joe Johnson, and for him to leave Atl you are going to have to pay him max money. I think they can get McGrady next yr. for 3yrs. $30 - $36 mil. We have to think, there are not alot of star caliber players out that you can give the ball to under 5 minutes left to go in the game and I think with him being 30 yrs old and a yr. removed from the microfracture surgery. McGrady will be our best option.
While we're at it... http://hoopedia.nba.com/index.php?title=Carroll_Dawson Hmmm... From the first page of a google search...
I am not going to dismiss info, but I never use wiki. They have a lot of false info in there, look that up. What people don't understand of player personel is those guys breakdown other teams rosters and look for the overload and value and make a move. Even by a technicality he wasn't the gm and rudy was a former scout of college players, they had a psuedo tandem that worked. Who gets credit? Unlike jones and johnson, rudy and cd didn't care. It wasn't till 96 when cd took over full time gm and someone took over player personell, it may have been lindsay, but everything had to go across rudy's desk for approval.
Some of you guys are still doing some revisionist history. CD was still the assistant coach before and during the back to back titles. You can look at old vids of the back to back titles and clearly see CD on the bench as the assistant coach. Now tell me how he was making personnel decisions as the assistant coach.
Yeah, he did, and he also taught it to Yao, the footwork etc...and is now teaching it to Dorsey. Seriously, it is pretty common knowledge for Rocket fans. DD
