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WWCDD: What would CD do?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Carl Herrera, Jul 17, 2009.

  1. leebigez

    leebigez Member

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    I agree with some of what you have said, but like we have had discussions before that were blown out of context, gm's have to also be good enough to draft a player that turns into a all star talent or be savvy enough to trade for one. CD has faults, no doubt, but think about him drafting yao and trading for 2 more all stars in francis and tracy. I am not talking about a guy that made the all star game or was a all star talent 5 yrs ago or so nor am I saying it guarantees rings, but impact players count more in basketball than in any other sport.

    Most impact players are of all star quality. So like the discussion before that I think you took out of context, Morey has to either draft a guy that becomes a all star or trade for one. For all his shortcomings, CD did that. Since he wasn't the "gm" during the ring years, he wouldn't get credit, but he did recognize the chance to maximize Dreams best yrs by trading for barkley. He did overvalue how good pippen was at that stage to take over for clyde. He also turned dickerson and some no nmaes into the #2 pick. A gm has to know how to close the big deal and for the most part,CD could close the deal because gm's liked dealing with him. It remains to be seen if morey can close a big deal. Maybe he can in the future, but he hasn't shown he can right now. That doesn't make him bad, it just makes it is what it is.
     
  2. CXbby

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    I've never disagreed with this. Our only argument in the past have been how he is to achieve this. I believe the ability to acquire an allstar talent in the late first to second round is mostly predicated on luck. And wholly unrealistic to strive for. It is simply that hard. However I completely agree that Morey will have to acquire an all star talent now, one way or another.

    In past years, our roster has included two all NBA caliber players, occupying more than half of our cap space. I think the goal has been to surround them with underrated and underpaid talent, since acquire additional allstars was unrealistic due to our financial situation. Since then, we have learned that our two all NBA caliber players cannot be counted upon, mainly due to chronic injury.

    Tmac's contract will soon expire. This represents the first realistic opportunity Morey has had to acquire an allstar. Whether he is savvy enough to do this through trade or signing? That is yet to be determined and I eagerly await the prognosis, along with you.
     
  3. leebigez

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    See, that's kinda the point. Most gm's will agree that capspace is overrated. For the most part, star players stay with their own team. Occasionally, very rare do they move to another squad. Shaq did because the glitz of La plus the contract made it very,very attractive. I also remember the Krause clearing room to make a run at the hometown kid Garnett. Well, Garnett didn't like the way they treated Jordan and decided not to leave. Plus the fact the hometown team can pay more for more years makes staying with your original team more attractive. That year, the bulls wound up with ron mercer and someone else of no significance. So what I always say, morey will have to draft that all star or trade for him. The only way to trade for him is to have contracts that balance up money wise. If all a team has is small, rookie type contracts, then it takes so many that it guts your team. I'm not saying you should have a team full of bloated contracts of guys who can't play, but in a sense, you need a contract to make the money work unless you are far enoough under the cap to just outright sign a guy. That hasn't happened in a long,long time.

    So lets just assume that we are players in the 2010 free agent class. If the rockets have the cap room, who is the free agent that can catapult the rockets into the elite class? Wade? Miami will have enough money to attract the same big time free agent. Bosh or Amare could go there and play with a guy with chamionship experience in beautiful south beach with a guy close to their age . Bosh? See above. Amare? See above. So what's left is a bunch of guys 30. That's why I say its monumental that someone turns into a all star caliber player. Orlando did it. Cleveland traded for 1 in mo williams and traded for shaq. The spurs now have 4. Portland has 1 and another close to it in LA and a team full of players that can yield another. I hope Morey can pull a deal this year and get one of those guys the year before so we can get a head start on the comp, but from the looks, I think that's going to be a longshot.
     
  4. echu888

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    LOL. "I'm not going to dismiss info, but I hate researching facts. They get in the way of my personal reality."
     
  5. SamFisher

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    Rod Thorn...of course they signed him later, lol....
     
  6. leebigez

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    Not really, just wiki. They have a long record of poor facts and that's not just me talking. I do research facts esp hoops, I never use wiki though.
     

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