There is nothing in the report that says gun related human casualties -- critical injuries plus deaths -- are also up, as the result of the handgun ban.
I'm dancing around my point here in the hopes of being nonconfrontational but apparently it isn't working. My point is that perhaps we should be more concerned with addressing why people want to kill each other as opposed to how, and that gun violence is not related to legal gun ownership, a.k.a. the gun culture.
So... your saying that the gun shot and killed him? Great news for the guy who pulled the trigger. That means we won't be prosecuting him, right? If you are incapable of grasping the point I was trying to make based on everything I said up until the point that you made this post, no amount of explaining will make it understood by you.
First of all if any of my posts in this thread comes off as personally offensive to you I apologize. IMO easy access to guns has everything to do gun violence. In many gun-related incidents, people may not want to kill -- they may only intend to harm the targeted (well lets assume they aim at the targets), but the efficient nature of gun causes casualties nevertheless, more than anything else. Can we discuss the lethality of guns without delving into the inner sanctum of human nature? I think we can.
I didn't mean to imply this in any way. I was really trying to say that my mode of communication wasn't effective. I was trying to change the direction of my comments but didn't communicate this clearly to you. While I of course disagree with you on gun control, I do see it as in line with your philosophical beliefs on the relationship between government and the people as I have seen them expressed in the past, for instance in talking about drugs. In this sense I can appreciate the consistancy of your worldview and if I agreed generally with your basic premise (as I understand it) then gun control logically follows. Unfortunately I don't, but discussions on that primal a level are as productive as discussions on the rightness of religious views.
your point is along the lines of 'guns don't kill people, people kill people'. I get it perfectly fine. but you kind of ignore that its very easy to kill someone with a very portable weapon that can be fired from a distance with the simple pull of a trigger. people do kill people but its a lot easier to kill someone with a gun because of those reasons. I'm not arguing for gun control. I could care less about it, but don't act like its only people killing people. a gun make it much easier.
Likewise I appreciate you seeing my views from a different angle than yours. This is probably not a right thread to expound on contentious issues like gun control and other philosophical differences so let's just leave it as it is.
Whats intresting is the republicans want to give our government full control and all our freedoms while the democrats want to take away our only means to defend ourselves should the government take control.
