I know there is strategy in poker, just never had interest in watching it on TV. Glad to see you back, thought Fatty knocked you out in that Facebook thread.
Yeah, I play NL cash games and Omaha cash and do pretty well. I strictly use math and position. I'm not the type to try and read players too much and it works well for me. I treat it like a part time job when I have the extra time to do it. No, Fatty didn't knock me out. I took a break, and on top of that, Fatty didn't do anything other than report me. If anyone wanted to knock me out, it would be Clutch or one of the admins. Fatty can't take credit for any of that. But I'm done arguing with Fatty. Whether I'm here or not, he'll find someone else to argue with so it isn't about me. But it does look like Fatty knocked himself out. He hasn't posted in over a day since he took the personal shot at BJs girlfriend. Looks like he earned himself a little timeout on that one.
Any pro will tell you tournament poker is a joke compared to cash games. Especially the WSOP. These amateurs like Darvin Moon or Dennis Phillups who make it deep in the WSOP would get eaten alive in a NL high stakes cash game. That's all Phil Ivey plays on Full Tilt, you can sit in and watch his tables.
Tournaments are also referred to as "Donkaments" in the poker community and if you read 2+2 poker forums. Due to variance and the luck factor that come into play in tournament poker. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=donkaments http://pokerterms.com/lol-donkaments.html Commonly used poker term to refer to the luck factor and variance in poker tournaments. In September 2006, a member of Two Plus Two Publishing's poker forum said that he would donate $10,000 to Barry Greenstein's favorite charity, Children, Incorporated, if the famous poker pro would say "LOL Donkaments" on GSN's "High Stakes Poker." Greenstein agreed, and on the February 26 episode, after winning a hand against Erick Lindgren, he sheepishly uttered the phrase, to the delight of tablemate Brian Townsend, who frequents the message board. "High Stakes Poker" commentator, Gabe Kaplan, had no idea what he said, thinking the phrase was, "LOL Donkuments," or "LOL Documents," depending on how one listens to the broadcast. As it turned out, the offer was a fake. To make up for it, members of Two Plus Two's poker community rallied to Greenstein's cause, contributing enough to surpass the $10,000 mark within a day of the episode's airing. By the end of the next day, $20,000 had been donated. A final figure resulting from "LOL Donkaments" is not exactly known, but it is believed to be upwards of $40,000.
This is got to be the stupidiest final table ever. Last year's final table was by far the best final table, these guys at the main event final table are playing no foldem holdem. Unreal.
No, I just didn't know TV poker had that much of a real-time audience. But then again, it seems to be on all the time so it obviously must. I find that Norman Chad guy really annoying btw. He used to write a marginally funny Washington Post/SI column years ago in the pre Age-of-Satire/Irony but his time has passed.
poker is a good part luck. You have to have some skill, but if a guy goes all in 2-7 off suite and he gets a full house what do you do, and it seems like it happens a lot.
But Cada did pull off a miracle run. He was all-in many times with the worst of it. It wasn't like he had a commanding chip stack either...it was mostly for his tournament life. So his run was something like 1:4 (one chance of doubling vs 4 chances of busting), then another 1:4, then another 1:4, then a few where he actually had the lead but more like a 3:2 thing... So overall, he went from $1.3m to $8.5m by generally getting it in with the worst of it and overcoming odds of 1/1000...semi guess b/c I don't want to go back to the tivo and watch everything again. But it's at least 1/300. Mathematically, he picked from a jar of 300 balls, where 299 meant he went home and 1 meant he won the whole thing and he got that one. And that's best case...it was probably more like 1 out of 1000. I'm not saying he's a bad player, but he clearly got outplayed time and time again but just kept hitting that 2-outer. That's the magic of poker. It's funny that if he would have played better, he probably would have lost.
I'm not saying he didn't get lucky a few times. My point is that it doesn't happen as often as the TV show would have you think.
Agreed...I watched the last 10 minutes as I was waiting to watch SC...I can't watch poker on TV...for one I don't play and two it's boring to watch...
The one thing I hate about these final table episodes is the fact that they have to show every elimination even if the hand is otherwise completely uninteresting. That plus all the suckout hands they have to show to build more drama to the average viewer really gets old fast. I wish they would have streamed the final table live this year. Even without knowing the hole cards I really prefer it that way, because you get a better picture of the dynamics of the table. Of course, if they only have total donkeys playing, then that appeal too is lost quickly. I wasn't very impressed with the winner either. For a (supposedly) good winning semi-highstakes internet pro, he didn't seem to make enough adjustments meaning for example that the ranges that he pushed with didn't play that good against his opponents ranges. There has been rumours that somekind of a deal was in place after the play got three or four handed. That would help explain the shovefest a little bit, too.
It sucks the OP ruined the result for your guys. That has to be, hands down, the sickest final table I have ever seen (I've only been watching since '03 though).
