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[WSJ] How to Re-Elect Trump

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Os Trigonum, Jun 26, 2018.

  1. dobro1229

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    Meanwhile with the party of Civility



    But at least they didn’t refuse to serve Sarah Sanders and omlette.
     
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  2. FranchiseBlade

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    It's almost like they want a civil war.
     
  3. Astrodome

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    for a sane liberal it is the most depressing thing ever
     
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  5. SamFisher

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    seems like @DonnyMost the Berniebro has been replaced with the soul of Harold Ford Jr.
     
  6. cml750

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    I actually do understand what you are saying and feel for you.
     
  7. SamFisher

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    you were doing a nice job up until this post.

    too much too soon.

    Never bet too big on the first pot or some other bullshit poker aphorism
     
  8. fchowd0311

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    I disagree with you. I'm not petty enough to think you are insane for it.

    I suggest you spend a considerable amount of time amongst a right wing bubble to understand who exactly you are confronting.
     
  9. DonnyMost

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    This is a complex question.

    Take Barack Obama, Bernie Sanders, and Hillary Clinton.

    How would you rank order them in order of most "uplifting" or "positive" candidate? There's part of your answer.

    Was Hillary overly caustic like Trump? No. Was she boring as hell, obsessed with identity politics, and an otherwise awful candidate? Yes.

    Perhaps it's weak vinegar, tepidly flavored vinegar, but it's vinegar nonetheless. The voting public didn't want it. They stayed home. And now we have the orange rape goblin as President.

    In response, left is basically lighting itself on fire left and right. It's embarrassing.
     
  10. FranchiseBlade

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    Yes, that's as bad as blowing up a mosque and Woman's clinic like the Trump supporters did. Well, at least Trump's supporters haven't used a car to run over and murder a person protesting neo-Nazis and white supremacists...
     
  11. DonnyMost

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    Weren't you one of the biggest Hillary boosters on this BBS prior to the election?

    Your advice on how to win elections I may have to... call into question.
     
  12. fchowd0311

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    What do you mean by "identity politics"?

    She had far more fleshed out and nuanced programs for unemployed midwesterners than her opposition. Her knowledge in macroeconomics was greater than Dotard.
     
  13. DonnyMost

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    Don't forget Ted Nugent basically saying he was going to shoot Obama and Hillary in the face. On stage.
     
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    The politics of race, religion, gender, sexual preference, etc.

    It encompasses the modern left. It's divisive. Nobody likes it. And they reject it.
     
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    Can you be more specific?

    What was racial about her policies?

    The largest criticism I've witnessed from the right and I've been soaked deep in that croticoms being surrounded by it constantly, was her emails, Benghazi and the Clinton Foundation.

    I would say the GOP candidate placed into "identity politic" signficantly more .
     
  16. DonnyMost

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    I didn't realize it was a trade secret that Hillary Clinton spent a lot of time as a campaign trying to weave together a coalition of minorities, women, and gay/trans folks. They even coined their own term for it, intersectionality.

    There is an entire section of HRC's website still devoted to "racial justice" and women's issues (bogus ones unfortunately, like the gender pay gap, VAWA, etc). It's basically tokenism. Vote for us because you belong to this group (or else). The electorate flatly rejects that.
     
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    I believe he has a fair chance at re-election, if he goes the low-key route for the next two years [SERIOUSLY, doubt that, given his ego]. Because, I don't think the powers of the Democratic Party are serious about winning [especially, if it's not someone they handpick] or will impede the progress of their more likable-progressive candidates, just like in 2004 and 2016, while they are not pushing the issues forward enough to put Trump or the GOP on their toes. There are many Democrats who are doing, just that, but they are not being promoted by the powers of the party.

    With that being said, it would be hard for president that is almost universally disliked beyond his rabid fan-base, people who really love his policies, and a few Republican enclaves -- not riding high on fear of national security and terrorism to win an election, considering that he did lose the popular vote by almost 3 million in an election with low-voter turnout [I'm not sure does that lionize alot of non-voters from 2016 to turnout to vote against him. And, that was as a populist, outside candidate who was a wild card. Now, he is a more finished product with lots and lots of baggage where people are actually being affected by his policies and negative rhetoric. While, some have been turned off by his petty and juvenile behavior.
     
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    Those incidents were universally condemned by both sides. The incidents in the ad are not. The more level headed liberals are condemning the craziness but they are in the vast minority.
     
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  19. SamFisher

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    even the posting style is all wrong.

    try harder clown
     
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    Love you Sam. Stay well.
     

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