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[WSJ] How to Re-Elect Trump

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Os Trigonum, Jun 26, 2018.

  1. fchowd0311

    fchowd0311 Member

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    It worked for the right?

    But yes, we place higher standards towards the left for good reason. Just more rational people in general so I understand why you desire to place higher standards towards them.
     
  2. DonnyMost

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    The people your behavior is meant to influence are largely in the middle, not the edge.
     
  3. Rocket River

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    Meh . .the Republicans literally do all of this everyday all day . . . ..
    They like what Trump stands for .. . . that is a shock . . white supremist like white supremist policies. . .who knew????

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  4. dobro1229

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    Again.... Donald J. Trump

    The Right has ZERO credibility in the Childish Temper Tantrum department. Its insane for anyone with half a brain to not see why the left would NOT be outraged at the moment. Honestly... I'm surprised the left is as civil as it has been.

    Sorry there are a few potty mouth comedians that use the same naughty words.... oh wait....



    Give me a break with the fake outrage dude. You are puppeted by the right wing media blitz that has happened over the past three days over SHS getting refused service. Just days after the same people hypocritically praised the courts decision to allow bakers to refuse service to gay couples.
     
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  5. edwardc

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    Why would anyone want to re-elect trump he has no clue as to how to be president.
     
  6. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    [Educational Post]
    Trump has brought peace and prosperity to both America and the world. He has implemented a large percentage of his agenda -- delivered on his promises and did what he said he would do. He has been perhaps the most effective President in modern history -- less than 2 years into the job. Highly competent and highly effective.


    GOOD DAY
     
  7. DonnyMost

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    You're missing the point cml is wisely making.

    There are no moderates, and absolutely no soft right-wingers, that can be won by going down this path.

    It plays right into Trump's hands. You make him look like a steady, mature, stabilizing force in comparison (and that is really difficult to do).

    At best, you end up keeping center-leaning folks home because they have no one they feel good about voting for, again, which is a big fat W for Republicans.
     
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  8. fchowd0311

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    I think you just showed us your hand here with this post and made it a certainty that you are playing a shtick and don't post what you sincerely beloecb .
     
  9. fchowd0311

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    I think you are flat out wrong here. Democrats stating to protest or confront nonviolently with actual policy makers even though I disagree with the latter doesn't make a man who is incharge of managing the world's largest bureaucracy who engages in childish back and forth so on Twitter with every celebrity and calls for the physical assault of protesters at rallies while he will pay their legal fees a "stabilizing force".

    You are falling victim to the false equivalency game the right has been winning the war on for the past half decade.

    Denying Sarah Huckabee Sanders her cheese platter isn't equivalent to a demagogue hurling 3rd grade insults at every individual who dares criticizing him, calling the media "the enemy of the peoole" and explictly requesting his hivemind rally goers to assault protestors.
     
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  10. dobro1229

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    LMAO man you have to be kidding right what peace and prosperity has he brought America has been more divided since he's been in office all of these closet kkk members have been showing there true color since he's been in office calling the police on 8yr olds
     
  12. DonnyMost

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    Once again, you're playing right into their hands by going down this "whataboutism" path.

    When someone asks you "why should I support your side" or "why are you doing this" and your reply is "whataboutism", that voter stays home. Every. Single. Time.

    Moderates and leaners look at this (kicking people out of businesses, harassing them on the street, etc) and think "welp, I guess there are no adults to vote for, again".

    You don't inspire people or increase turnout with this behavior. Except for maybe Republicans.

    I'm not saying there isn't a time and place for incivility or even civil disobedience, but this isn't one them. Not yet, at least.
     
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    Problem is . .. . Republican vinegar is working for them
    Democratic honey is not working for democrats

    The Democrats have been big p*****s and rolled over on everything the Republicans fought for so they don't look like they are "being difficult"
    Their civility is why Obama did not get his Justice in place .. . and why we getting some bullshit 5-4 decisions
    So . . the demos spineless lilly livered approach is just cooperation by another name .. .

    Rocket River
     
  14. El_Conquistador

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    [Educational Post]
    A booming economy, record low unemployment (particularly for minorities), and a reduced threat of war by successfully negotiating with hostile foreign nations. The threat of violence from a loose border is also being addressed. He's brought peace and prosperity -- it's really undeniable. It was Obama that divided us as a nation, and it's the Democrats who promote division and racial identity politics, since that's their only way to rally the black vote. The Democrats' policies are simply not effective, and as such, are not popular. So they seek to divide and keep minorities in the lower class -- it was Obama's playbook. Trump, on the other hand, is a strong leader who is focused on lifting all boats.

    GOOD DAY
     
  15. dobro1229

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    While I absolutely believe we should all get along and engage the right when we can, this post is just factually wrong. The premise is that if both sides are energized, and vote, Republicans win.

    There’s a reason why Trump called it a “Yuge win” when the courts allowed a voter ID law to be carried out that SUSPRESSES voter turnout.

    If both sides turn out, sorry ... it’s the other way around.

    Fighting back isn’t always playing into Trumps hands, but cowering is 100% of the time. What I want is for their to be no question who the leaders of the Dems are so people like Trump and Hannity can’t dictate it and make someone like Waters the face of the party because nobody else says crap, and cowers for the sake of being “civil”. Other more talented Democrats need to be finding ways to get their voices heard through all the noise.
     
  16. DonnyMost

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    That is not my premise at all.
     
  17. edwardc

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    And there are clowns out here defending this joke of a president.
     
  18. El_Conquistador

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    [Even More Education]
    It's also telling that your view of a politicians' success appears to be driven primarily by your view on race relations. The media has been attempting to condition people to think this way for quite some time. It's a pity, because it's a misdirection attempt to avoid talking substance -- you know, policies and outcomes. It's manipulation. Don't be manipulated. Kanye and Candace Owens are on to something here. Democratic leaders have been playing their base for decades, playing on their racial identities and handicapping their chances of exiting their situation... because once they move up in the world, they start voting Republican. It's a very deceitful scheme that the Democrats have been running. Don't fall for it.

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  19. fchowd0311

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    Yes and that is the problem that no one wants to address. Acting like a child increases voter turnout for the right. It's a systemic issue that has potential to be the downfall of this nation.
     
  20. DonnyMost

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    Republican vinegar isn't working.

    Not at all, really. Their turnout isn't going up.

    The problem is Democrats and their own brand of vinegar that permeated the 2016 election. It drove turnout down. Every time turnout is bad, Rs win. Easy.

    Trump baited them into the gutter, and they fell for it. Now they're rolling in the mud having a temper tantrum, and Trump is enjoying every minute of it.
     

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