So if Steve is the problem, when Steve is out of the game, Yao should be totally dominant. RIght? If you want to know what's wrong with Yao, you will find out all your answers tonight. Just be sure to have your set on.
you can't wait Yao beat by Shaq, are you? What kind of freaking fan are you? If I know you in real life, I gonna put a big stick in your hole.
I want the Rockets to win the game. Period. However you will see tonight how a dominant big man is supposed to play. And we will be able to compare that to how Yao plays.
Steve is great 1 on 1 and even 1 on 5, and rockets never go to playoff. period. basketball is a team play. hope you know this before yourposting in the future.
Juugie, let me tell you this: Rockets is steve's team. Period. Cat/MoT/Cato/Moochie are all steve's guy. I believe yao will be better if JJ, Pike, Boki, Padgett are on the same court will him because only these guys in the rockets team know how to lay team basketball..
Of course. Yao should dominate the league KG or Dirk or Kobe or TMac did 2 month into their second year. KG and Dirk had similar numbers (same in PPG, lower in RPG) than Yao, Kobe had worse, TMac had much worse. Boy those players sure turned out real busts. The strikingly similar player in that group was of course Dirk. An athletic but somewhat soft international with a shooting touch who can't play D and who stunk it up his first year. Yup, Yao definitely will be a bust. Fact is, if in say a year to year and half from now, if Yao isn't a 19-20/10 guy, who still makes stupid mistakes (or worse, boneheaded ones like Steve) and who shows no signs of improvement I'll gladly sit with you on my porch with a keg and entertain whatever trade ideas involving him that you have. I'll tell you exactly how lousy this team is right now. It's so lousy that we actually started to trick ourselves. "Hey, who cares we only beat the Cavs/Heat/whatever basement team by 4 points and nearly lost if we didn't get lucky. A win's still a win." Well, if this team doesn't beat the likes of the Cavs/Heat then they should simply stop playing basketball altogether, PERIOD. I can't think of a team that doesn't consistently beat those basement teams except themselves (actually I take that back, they beat themselves every night, just not the other team). I am tired of hearing the same flimsy excuses now. The way we're going, problems in the Middle East will be solved before we start winning. "Hey, who cares if we win basketball games, we got Stevie Franchaise. Watch him dunk. What? Turnover? Oh well watch him dunk next time." Law on this board: anyone who doesn't live and die by Francis is a Yao only fan/hater who doesn't deserve to live.
None of those guys were 23. They were all 18. Show me a 23 year old that averaged those numbers his first and second year and became a dominant player.
lol. with the debate going like this... why I don't see a tipjar game for tonite's yao-shaq III? anyone want to bet on any side?
Bottom line... Yao is holding Yao back. If He EVER wants to become a great player, he needs to have the mentality of other great players. He needs to go out there and try to cut the hearts out of the opposition (Dream, Kobe, Shaq, etc) and play with authority. He needs to DEMAND the ball and take it upon himself to say something to SF, Cat, JVG to make sure that happens. There is NO and I mean NO excuse for a 7'6" player with good shooting range to only get 4 FGA in one game. Yao needs to know what to do with the ball immediately depending on the situation. It is nerve racking to watch him hold the ball for 3-4 seconds doing absolutely nothing but letting the defense settle in for good position. Yao also needs to realize that in order to be great, you don't need things to handed to you, you have to go out and take it. For example... If Steve, Cat, JJ , anyone except Yao are taking shots, crash the boards for easy putbacks. If Yao is double teamed run the pick and roll for the easy 15-18 footer. If single-teamed make a pumpfake or a delibrite (sp) move immediately after receiving the ball. However, Yao will probably never display any of those characteristics because he's afraid of angering his teamates. Thus he will never become a great player that will dominate.
Dirk wasn't 18. Karla wasn't 18. Marbury wasn't 18. Jermaine O'Neal wasn't 18. Baron Davis isn't 18. Jason Williams isn't 18. AK-47 isn't 18. Zach Randolph isn't 18. Steve Nash was 27. Steve Francis is turning 27 and has yet to get a clue. You take all the above average players in this league, 3/4 of them didn't start producing until 23+, 3rd year. Your point is?
I agree with most of your post and IT IS nobody except Yao's fault. He needs to get tough physically and mentally. But I don't agree that he should crash the boards every time considering how many fastbreaks we give up already due to stupid turnovers. The PnR that looks so good on paper and works for so many teams won't work for the Rockets, because Yao will set the pick, but he won't get the roll.
thats a moronic response do you even know what he meants by holding yao back? he means by making yao the 3rd option on this team behind him and mobley he is holding him back. Steve is the point guard he averages the most FGA of the rockets he IS holding yao back. Thats like saying its not yao that steals the ball from francis its not yao that gets into personal 1v1 basketball matchups with francis its not yao that makes francis rank #5 in turnovers a game
why dont you ever b**** about the real problem of the rockets which is our forward positions? stop embarassing yourself tool
If shaq outplays yao what the hell does that prove exactly? shaq outplays every single person that defends him. So theres something wrong with every other center in the league? explain yourself
Once again I cant follow Juugie's logic. So assume that Yao has proved that he is or never will be "dominant" player then we should trade him away now? Then has SF ever proved he's "dominant" player in his career? He's max player with the nick "franchise". What should we do with SF? So Yao is an idiot if he's not yet dominant in his second year. So how about SF? I have no problem fans criticising yao. However I am really sick of people accusing him to make his teammates worse. I think he's proved that he's ultimate team player. Every player scarifices something for the team, that's why it's team sport. U really think that Yao feels comfortable to bang at the low post? The whole team tries to adjust and fit in the JVG system. They are not adjusting to fit in yao.
Yao playing against Shaq is like if Steve were matched up with Michael Jordan. Both are almost impossible scenarios to win. Maybe we should compare Steve to Michael Jordan if people are trying to compare Yao to Shaq.
I'm right here. Yao had a good half. I give him all the credit for that. Our defense did a great job of swarming Shaq. Yao played basically one on one all night. And still it was Stevie that led us to this win. Great job Franchise.
No disrespect Juugie, were u very upset in the first half? U see how SF encouraged Yao after some good baskets? U see how happy yao was after the win even he's benched for the 4th quarter? Maybe they are not holding each others back? SF led us the win? That's great too. I think yao's more than happy to be the side kick if that's the team best interest.
