Would you want to compete with about 2% chance of winning a championship?

Let's look at that team compared to this one:

2208 - 2010
AB < AB
SB = KM
RA < TA
LS < LS
YM = YM
KL < KL
CL > JH
CB > VW

The overall team THIS year is better than the one that took the Lakers to 7 games...and our bench is WAY better.

The Lakers are declining, the Spurs are too, the Mavericks as well, Phoenix too.....the Nuggets are stupid, the Jazz are way worse.....

The Rockets are RIGHT there .....all we need is a healthy return of Yao Ming....

DD

 

If you talk about a girl and say I am talking about this girl and every thing about her is alot like your sister but I am not talking about your sister. And then you proceed to describe this girl in a way that to a T sounds like you are describing my sister and then you say she is a w**** and slut with the exact same name as my sister. I am going to forget that you said your not talking about my sister in the beginning and pop you in the mouth because I think you are talking about my sister.

Now you can later say hey man wtf, I wasn't talking about your sister. But it's too late, you already pissed me off too much because I thought you were talking about my sister.

When you throw out numbers like 1-4% and then lower that number to a 2% chance in hell of winning anything. And along with describing the Rockets chances as being piss poor you add a tarded poll that emphasizes that point even further suggesting we should give up hope because we suck and start the rebuilding process. Well that just makes me want to pop you in the mouth figuratively and ask questions later.

Of course now you say I was throwing out some food for thought. But that just sounds like your throwing out some personal crap that you want others to believe in. If you reread your OP it implies very clearly that you don't think we have much chance to win.

Well I do not believe in your crappy food for thought. And if you don't believe in it either than I would suggest you don't start threads that analyze our Rockets in a negative light. Especially when everyone with intelligence knows as long as we have Yao we have much more than a punchers chance of winning it all.

Asked any coach that has ever one a championship, dominate bigs always give you much more than a chance to win it all. Gasol was the MVP of the Lakers Championship team not Kobe. Yeah he had some great games but they lost some of those games. But the final game Gasol was the one who took him to victory while Kobe sucked!

Anyway that's some real food for thought. Never underestimate how important the heart is in winning. If you haven't learned that much being a Rocket fan than I suggest you watch some old film of our championship years. Do that and I am sure you will raise that stupid insulting 2% figure you first suggested. Peace Bro

 

Bust up the team and rebuild? Heck, since Matt and Adam and others have already decided (so very elegantly and mathematically) the outcome, why even play the coming season out?

 

Because we have a 2% chance.......duh.



Bunch of quitters in here.....why take the risk, we will probably fail anyway.....

I am not sure they are even Americans...that is not how this country was built..

SHEESH



DD

 

My family were season tickets holders last year before the yao injury was upgraded. I still watched almost all of the games last year, and i believe that with our current roster and a returning yao, we have a better chance of winning our conference. We werent awe struck by the emerging OK city thunder. The lakers were not far and away better than us. We killed utah on there court with "scrubs." Oh, and David stern purposefully tried to injure our team by scheduling 4 back to backs in a row because we tried to beat the lakers the year before.

 

thread title : Would you want to compete with about 2% chance of winning a championship? YES

poll question: At what point do you think a team should rebuild: When you're not sure you're even a playoff team.

 

This.

Once your organization actively stops trying to win it bleeds into the culture of the team. It is not an easy thing to recover from if your players start believing that its okay to lose. Besides anything can happen. Kobe could tear his ACL, Miami could have incredible chemistry problems, the whole Boston team could go down in a plane crash. There's a reason why we play the games, because odds are not always right.

 

where did i say rebuild here?

i just think the comparison of this team going into this season and those championship squads going into those seasons is asinine.

and, no...i don't think it's a contender because i think your IF is gigantic. i have zero expectation that the guy who can't finish a season all of a sudden will be able to without reducing his minutes so much as to reduce too much of his impact.

now if you want to talk about rebuilding...i think it's inevitable...the question is how soon do we get to it.

 

Sorry -- I was being sarcastic about cancelling the season. I caught part of Matt and Adam's ridiculous rant yesterday and was surprised by its stupidity. The logical conclusion would be "Let's just cancel the season and go straight to the Lakers-Heat championship game" ... except, of course, they would have already mathematically determined that winner, so there would be no reason to play even that series (and of course they would have determined that it would be the Heat and Lakers).

That's why they play the games -- no one knows what's going to happen, no one knows how luck will play out, no one knows how ego's will destroy (or make) a contender, etc.

 

Come on, you are compeletly talking about rebuilding and have been for a long time.

Getting rid of Yao and rebuilding, right?

If Yao breaks down (another "IF" I know) then I am all for it.....

If Yao stays healthy, and Morey, the doctors and the organization think he will, then what?

Still rebuild?

Me too, I was agreeing with you.

DD

 

There is no comparing this team with the two championship teams as those teams were battle-tested and more talented with Hakeem anchoring the post. I know how much this may suck but the reality for the Rockets may very well be like the situation in baseball. At the beginning of each season, you can look at a number of teams and clearly say that they have NO shot at making the playoffs much less the World Series. Well, the Rockets look to be returning basically the same team + a recuperating from injury Yao. That's simply not enough to favor them ahead of a Utah, Dallas, Denver, Portland, SA or even an OKC at this point. At this point they have to pass one of those teams to even make the playoffs which looks iffy until we can get a better reading on what Yao's impact will be next season.

Now, this is due primarily to the fact that for the greater part of the past 10-15 years, the Rockets basically stood still in the areas of player acquisition and development under the previous regime. The only constant was the owner, who I believe escapes blame for allowing this situation to fester for so long. Since the two NBA titles, the Rockets have been passed by Dallas, SA, NO and now OKC. Once you allow your franchise to slip like that, it becomes ever so much harder to fix. Morey is trying his best but he can only do what the circumstances allow him to do and for 2010-2011, that means getting Yao back and not much else. As for all of the "assets", I'm taking a wait and see approach on their value (and what they can get you) because I'm just not high on them as are others like yourself.

 

when theres a will theres a chance, i think that we have a pretty competetive team and i just want to see the best basketball athletes in the world compete,

poll question: If a lunatic with huge machete runs full speed towards you, when should you stop running?
a- after you ran for about 3 hours
b- just enough to be with in eye sight
c- dont run and think about rebuilding :grin:

just kidding! i guess what im trying to say is we should not give up its not a good way to look at things.

 

Hillboy,

Hakeem was more talented individually, but this year's team probably has more overall talent.

Hakeem made that team, there were players that sucked elsewhere that were good because of him.

This team has a lot of players that can play anywhere.

Does it make them equal, better, worse? Who knows...that chapter is yet to be written.

DD

 

No, if Yao can stay healthy you're talking about putting a piece alongside him.

I just really really doubt that's gonna happen. I hope to be wrong.

But my point in this thread was not the rebuilding discussion...it was to respond to the ridiculous comparison.

 

Ridiculous comparison to you, not to me.

I recall how that team was thought of BEFORE that year and how we were all worried about being able to beat Seattle, and was there enough around Dream to really compete.

We knew we had a playoff team, but championship contender, that was a stretch.

That is the way it compares to me.

You can call it what you want.....no worries...that is your opinion.

DD

 

Man, you have a different view of our championship squads than I do. No wonder you think this team may be their equal.

Players on championship squad who did not suck elsewhere:

Clyde Drexler
Robert Horry
Sam Cassell
Otis Thorpe

 

Clyde was not on the team I was talking about, he was acquired for Otis Thorpe in the 2nd year.

Robert Horry was a 2nd year player that we almost traded for Sean Elliott and had to rescind the trade after Sean's liver condition was revealed.....brought Horry and Bullard back from the Pistons.

Sam Cassell was the 26th pick in the first round, a very low selection, and just an unproven rookie.

Otis Thorpe was a very talented PF...and arguably the only other accomplished player on that first team.

Look, I am talking about our first championship team...going back to before the year...I was about 28 years old and can remember it pretty clearly.

Maybe you don't ....judging by the above post.

DD

 

I didn't realize you were talking only about YOUR opinion when you said: The Rox were not the favorites their two championship years, and still we won em.

I responded saying, we may not have been THE favorite...but we were A favorite.

I think you just moved the ball.

 

step a side every body dadakota and madmax are going at it (old schools)