yeah... well peja's disappearing act had a LOT more to do with the King's loss than C-Webb missing a layup.
He is a great player, if he can fully recover. He is a low post player with an all-round game. He is just not your go-to guy in clutch time, but how many are? But his contract is too expensive, considering his injury prone career and his age.
No way, his legs are gone!! Not unless he pays us. We don't need a repeat of the "Glenn Rice Story!" D R
I find this funny that people are critizing C-Webb - who was out of shape and had two bad knees still outperformed all our power forwards combined (oh yeah...he was on a team with three other great players) now... I wouldn't give up anything of real value for him, but if he wants to play here ... (he is NOT glen rice)
(1) Chris Webber is scheduled to make $17 million next season. (2) Cato is to make $7.992 million next season (3) Mo Taylor is scheduled to make $8.45 million This trade makes sense economically. Question is does it make sense for the Rockets and the Kings? I'd say maybe for the Rockets and maybe for Sacramento. Cato is garbage offensively, but he is a defensive inside presence that the Kings have been trying to get for several years (see what they paid bust, Keon Clark, and you'll have some idea of what I'm getting at). I think Taylor's game fits into Sacramento's offensive philosophy as well. Webber is becoming a risk at his age and this risk is compounded by his recent injuries. Even so, I think the Kings could better for Webber than Taylor and Cato. From the Rockets standpoint, you get to move two overpaid players for one all star type player with some baggage. A healthy Webber could make the Rockets instant contenders. I, for one, am a little tired of the Rockets putting a lot of money into risks, many of which have not panned out. I think there are other less risky options out there with the MLE on our side so, while tempting, I put this trade idea on the back burner, at least for the first couple of weeks of free agency.
If Webber were healthy, he'd be exactly what we need. With him being 31 and having a serious knee injury, I think it's unlikely he'll be what he was. I'd pass.
NO WAY!!! C-Web is soft and injury prone. This trade will not make the rockets better. What did he do this year in the regular season or in the playoffs? Uh......nothing! Bad trade idea..
There is no way the Kings do this deal. Trade a top PF for 2 players that noone will take off of our team because they are overpaid - won't happen. I agree that Webber is getting old - but the Kings are stuck over the cap - so cap freedom does them no good. They are stuck riding it out with what they have. They may even get older because that is the only talent they can add in exchange for what they can give up. MoT is a cap dud - he contract is too long and too much - noone will take him, unless it is in exchange for another overpaid player or we are giving them something to take him. Cato has actually played himself into being considered more than lost cap space. Still, he is paid more than he is worth. but, at least his contract is shorter thatn MoTs. I agree on one thing - the idea that one of the "over the cap" teams might take MoT, Cato or Spoon - so we can clear cap space. The Kings won't do it because their contracts are all decent. They have committed their big money to their starters and decent money to decent backups - no booth contracts there - so no deal. Portland may give up Rahim for Cato+trade exeption - it would let them save a lot in cap penalties. I would throw in a #1 if they would take MoT instead.
He's damaged goods. All those plays he's blown in elimination games has ruined his psyche in tough moments. I wouldn't want a guy like that as team leader.
I think the big question for me is whether JVG would be willing to trade for Webber. Webber doesn't strike me as a JVG guy. If Webber can recover from his injury to at least 80%, I'd still be interested in acquiring him. We don't need him to be dominant in the post. As long as he can be a consistent mid-range shooter and rebounder, smart player who can feed Yao in the post, decent defender, we're much better off than we are now.
Even I like his game very much--perfect for what we need, 17mil per is a little too expensive at 80%.
http://www.sacbee.com/content/sports/story/9384457p-10308845c.html Petrie said He will look to upgrade the roster, and he will listen to trade offers should they come this summer - including any regarding Chris Webber. Petrie: Adelman will be back The Kings' president says there will be no coaching change, but he doesn't rule out any trade offers. By Joe Davidson -- Bee Staff Writer Published 2:15 am PDT Saturday, May 22, 2004 It's not too late to get into a Fantasy Sports League. Sign up here. Rick Adelman will be the Kings' coach next season. Geoff Petrie, the Kings' president of basketball operations, settled that discussion with conviction and a one-word answer - "Yes!" - during a state-of-the-season address Friday at the team's practice facility. Petrie said the core group from the team that lost to the top-seeded Minnesota Timberwolves in Game 7 of the Western Conference semifinals is under contract for next season. But he didn't discount any future possibilities. Translation: He will look to upgrade the roster, and he will listen to trade offers should they come this summer - including any regarding Chris Webber. The Kings power forward has four years and $80 million remaining on his contract and missed 50 games with a knee injury and eight games because of suspensions for lying to a federal grand jury and violating the NBA's anti-drug policy. Webber has said at different times this season, depending on his mood, that he is happy in Sacramento and wants to remain a King "because of the players in the locker room." Other times, he has talked of the sting of the booing of home fans when he labored through some dreadful stretches in his comeback. Word had come out through anonymous sources that he would invite a trade in the offseason. "I can't speculate on things somebody may have alluded to," Petrie said. "It certainly wouldn't be my first or second choice, or any choice, about trading Chris. He's still going to regain his ability to be productive. Let's face it, he had a tough year, on the court and off the court. He came back and hung in there." Petrie said he was pleased with the work of Adelman, the winningest coach in franchise history, whose roster was thinned and challenged by injury, from Webber to Brad Miller to Bobby Jackson - the latter played just one game in the final three months of the season with a lower abdominal strain. The Kings have reached the playoffs in each of Adelman's six seasons at the helm, reaching Game 7 of the 2002 Western Conference finals against the Lakers, Game 7 of the West semis against Dallas last season and Game 7 of the semis again this season. "I think Rick's done an excellent job," Petrie said. "He's been the best coach for this team. He's maintained the respect of the players. And he's a proven winner himself. The key is stability. (Owners) Joe and Gavin (Maloof), me and Rick, that's really important. We want to keep that going." The key Kings under contract for next season are Webber, Mike Bibby, Doug Christie, Peja Stojakovic, Jackson and Miller. Vlade Divac's contract has expired. He has discussed the benefits of retiring - rest and time with family - and of maybe a return for his 16th NBA season because he likes this group and he wants to win. Petrie said the Kings want Divac - called "the heart and soul" of the franchise - to return. "I think the players, like the rest of us, need to get away a little, to let the emotions go away and to get rejuvenated," Petrie said. "(As for a timetable with Vlade), some time before the first of July would be a good time. I would like to have him back. He's been a big part of the glue here." Other key members to wonder about include bench players Anthony Peeler, who has a player option for next season; Darius Songaila, whose contract ends this summer; and Gerald Wallace, who is signed through next season, then has an option the following season. The Kings can protect eight players under contract from the Charlotte Bobcats expansion draft. Petrie would not elaborate on which players would be protected. Petrie said he wants some reliable depth behind Stojakovic, who averaged a career-high 24 points in the regular season but tired in the playoffs. Stojakovic played internationally last summer and could again this summer for Serbia and Montenegro. "He was a lot like our team," Petrie said. "He had some very, very good games, and he had other games when he wasn't as productive as he wanted to be, or he normally was. "He had an absolutely fantastic year. He's continuing to grow as a player. He'll grow from this experience. I told him after (Game 7) that he needs to let his body rest." And Petrie is hoping for better health next season. "We're still a very solid team," he said. "Now we go about improving it. We're not going to do anything reactionary. It took (Utah's) Jerry Sloan nine years to get to the (NBA) Finals with (John) Stockton and (Karl) Malone in their prime, and they never missed a game. The margin is so small. We haven't played a full deck of cards yet. Hopefully, we will."
I'd take C-Webb if we could get it done without losing Francis or Yao. That's not going to happen though.
If C-Webb is gettable then he is gettable, and SF and Yao are not in the equation. C-Webb's 'move' is tied in to C-Webb's motivation. If he doesn't want to leave then a deal has to knock Kings' socks off. If he does Kings may have to take best deal they can.
CWebb is washed up.. He may stil have some game, but not consistent enough. If he came to houston, every member on this board we throw a fit and blame CD, JVG, and Les. Say no to Webster! -eyhab
be happy: yes too much given: no worry: yes, but for mo t and cato? that's like trading two volkswagen for a banged up porsche - would you do it? of course
If it happened, and it is only a question to 'wile' away the quiet time before Bobcat draft, real draft, FA etc, I wonder how it would 'play out'. C-Webb is certainly a 'large character' in the way Chuck was, which did not ultimately play out well.
