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Would you vote for an Indonesian Citizen for President of the USA?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by El_Conquistador, Aug 11, 2008.

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Would you vote for a Presidential Candidate who was/is a citizen of Indonesia?

  1. Yes: The divided loyalties do not concern me

    74.8%
  2. No: It's unconstitutional and unpatriotic

    25.2%
  1. rocket3forlife2

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    Next TJ and OMR will probaly carve a backwards B in their face, and say they were attcked by 2 obama supporters.The desperation of the conservatives is an embarrassment to our political system in the united states and democracies around the world.
     
  2. giddyup

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    Why is Obama's birth certificate sealed?

    Why is that not suspicious?
     
  3. FranchiseBlade

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    Because a certificate of live birth is a legal document that is considered valid. Obama has produced it.

    Why would it be suspicious? If I had to produce ID to get into a bar, and I produced a passport instead of driver's license that doesn't mean I was born in Indonesia. It means I had another valid form of ID to satisfy the requirements.

    Let's stop with the side show.
     
  4. Rashmon

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    Your own words seem appropriate here:

    "My first instinct is to call you ignorant for posting this. I think I will go with that."
     
  5. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    That much is clear. Your descent into trash is just beyond the pale. There are real investigative reporters in this country that could become the next Woodward and Bernstein if this story had any legs. Instead, you're posting trash off the internet from a well known scumbag. Very sad...
     
  6. Landlord Landry

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    Barack doesn't look like either of those guys. Besides, we all know who Barack's real father is........

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  7. SwoLy-D

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    O, wow. :( For real, nobody cares?
    C'mon, now, man... :( would you let ME be the President?

    Please tell me you were joking about that, man.
     
  8. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    You don't get it. It is not "his own story." It is the credible story.

    Here, I'll play your game. PROVE to me that John McCain was not on an illegal substance when he crashed his (fourth) jet while in Vietnam. Don't change the subject. Stick to MY subject, and prove me wrong. :eek:
     
  9. GladiatoRowdy

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    Actually, "Sizzle Chest" is a term popularized by The Jerky Boys and as such, t_j is being helped by a group even LESS popular than ADC.
     
  10. giddyup

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    The operative thing here is "sealing." How is sealing not hiding? Why would you seal something willy-nilly... especially in the face of this criticism?

    Unsealing is a simple resolution.
     
  11. FranchiseBlade

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    When you send a letter in the mail why do you seal it in an envelope? Are you hiding something?
     
  12. giddyup

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    Okay we have now entered the Spin Zone...

    FB, we don't agree on much but I do respect your thoughtful consideration of most matters, but this counter is just pathetic. ;)

    Those two things are in no way comparable. Obama's sealing is via court order not saliva positing.
     
  13. Oski2005

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    Wow, you think Obama and Ayers created the Annenberg foundation? How can I talk with you when you drop gems like these and continue to copy other people's stuff without giving credit?

    http://www.factcheck.org/about/

    Walter Annenberg was a Republican. Obama and Ayers did not serve on the Annenberg Foundation board and they certainly did not create it.

    I just don't know why you are so unwilling to at least do the minimal amount of research into what you are talking about. You could have easily gone to wikipedia and looked up the Annenberg Challenge: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Annenberg_Challenge

    Then you could at least know how they ended up on the board together. You can keep dismissing the NY Times, but they did the research and interviewed people and they put together a comprehensive investigation into what the extent of Obama and Ayers connections were: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/04/us/politics/04ayers.html?_r=2&pagewanted=all&oref=slogin

    Again, what research has your ant-semite done, the guy who put out a press release where he calls himself an "Internet Powerhouse?" The guy who's trying to get his hands on a copy of the Obama long-form birth certificate even though in Hawaii, nobody can get a copy of an original long-form birth certificate because it's not even an option on the request form.

    So I don't know what else to tell you, I deal in facts and you wallow in wild speculations by an anti-semite.
     
  14. Oski2005

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    Can you show me proof that his birth certificate has been sealed besides the wild speculation of Anti-Semite Andy Martin? According to Martin or Oldman Rock, Linda Lingle who is the Republican governor of Hawaii and who is supporting John McCain has sealed the birth certificate.
     
  15. SamFisher

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    I don't know why this is even an issue - this thread backfired royally.

    The poll findings clearly indicate that Americans want an Indonesian national as President.
     
  16. hotblooded

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    Does it really matter where someone is born? because CLEARLY that defines what that person stands for.

    Our Australian prime minister speaks Chinese, oh no, he is communist and his son in law is asian too, oh no he will turn Australia into the People's Republi of China.

    This is like racism sugar coated and turned into patriosim

    You are suppose to embrace diversity not reject it.
     
  17. hotblooded

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    :D Classic
     
  18. Oski2005

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    That gun ran out of ammo, now they are saying his real father wasn't Obama sr.
     
  19. giddyup

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    Here's a link to a Hawaiian paper that has a link to a PDF of the order. It doesn't seem that politically motivated given Lingle's lack of support for Obama: http://www.hawaiireporter.com/story.aspx?540ca50a-154d-4000-bf5e-ce03204a3f5a
     
  20. FranchiseBlade

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    I made the comparison because both are pointless. If he has proof that he is a natural born citizen why does it matter about his birth certificate? Why does it matter if there is something on it that he wants to hide?

    The answer is that it doesn't.

    The only thing that matters is that he proves he is a natural born citizen with sufficient legal documentation. He has done that. So why waste time guessing what's on his birth certificate.
     

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