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Would you vote for a Hillary/Gore ticket?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by kokopuffs, Oct 16, 2007.

  1. Batman Jones

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    I hope Gore runs too and I share your enthusiasm about a Gore-Obama ticket, but I disagree with your assessment of the current field. Americans are with Democrats now on every single issue, especially the war. Next year, issues will matter. And it's not like a single GOP candidate (with the exception of 5th place Huckabee) has likeability over any of the Dems. Hillary does have a problem there, but Giuliani (or Thompson or Romney or McCain) isn't going to be the one to exploit it.
     
  2. Batman Jones

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    You'd vote Republican on any ticket. You're a single issue voter and that issue is that you are continually ridiculed by evil liberals on a Houston Rockets fansite.
     
  3. NewYorker

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    You're right. I voted for Bill Clinton and I'd vote for Obama.

    Those guys are republicans compared to you.
     
  4. JeopardE

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    What ... 23 replies and not a mention of Ron Paul? You guys are slacking.
     
  5. Batman Jones

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    You say you'd vote for Obama now, but allow me to change your mind on that. I'm voting for Obama so now you have a reason not to. The embarassment you've experienced here has led you to change your position on every important issue, as you can't bear to be on the same side with those who have pwned you so. I think it's cute the way you apparently think neither Hillary nor Obama is a liberal.
     
  6. rimrocker

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    I agree with the first part... he doesn't want to run... at least in the way that's expected these days. And should he run, I don't expect a conventional campaign.

    Regarding the second part, you could make an argument that the current relative strengths of the two parties is a huge enticement for him. If he's the head of the ticket, he can almost certainly count on an increase of Dems in both houses to a degree that he might be able to get some of his big stuff through. Wouldn't it be ironic if he becomes President in 2008 and is able to pass legislation that he wouldn't have had a prayer passing if he had been in office after the 2000 election? Not to mention poetic justice for his opponents.

    One doesn't have to use a lot of imagination to see the possibilities of a watershed election should Gore get in... one that changes the ways campaigns are run, one that changes the focus of the country, one that changes our relationship to the world. It's this vision that makes the prospect of a Gore run so appealing to so many people and one of the reasons the current Dem candidates are lacking in comparison, no matter how strong they appear when compared to the Repubs.
     
  7. mc mark

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    Excellent! We agree!!!
     
  8. thegary

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    i absolutely agree with rimrocker. i've heard many democrats argue that gore need not run because the dem candidates are strong and the republican side weak. that's crap. this is a crucial time in our nation's history and i think gore is the most qualified person to lead us into the future. i don't want good enough, i want real change and a real leader. i might even become a democrat if gore decides to run.
     
  9. NewYorker

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    I can't account for what you do...I can only point out that you seem very concerned about what I do which is very interesting. Apparently I fascinate you to a great deal. I'm flattered.
     
  10. NewYorker

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    For very different reasons. I vote for the best man (or woman) for the job. Not by party affiliation.
     
  11. mc mark

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    sure you do
     
  12. NewYorker

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    Al Gore couldn't run because if he won he'd be forced to admit that he couldn't do anything about Global Warming.
     
  13. El_Conquistador

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    I would NEVER, and I mean NEVER, vote for either Al Gore, the world's biggest charlatan and sensationalist, or Hillary, the world's biggest power hungry, immoral, manipulative b!tch.
     
  14. rimrocker

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    I'm shocked. This will certainly make them reevaluate, as I'm sure both would be counting on your vote to put them over the top.
     
  15. Cohen

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    No way... never... for Hillary. I wouldn't care who was the token VP.


    Obama maybe; possibly the smartest and most trustworthy candidate.
     
  16. Batman Jones

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    I absolutely agree with rimrocker too. And I think that if Gore can figure out a new and transcendental way to run, I think he might do it. Then again, pretty much everything in rim's last paragraph was the plan for the Obama campaign and the most noble ideas in it deflated in most part under the conditions of actually running. If Gore doesn't run, I chalk it up to him not figuring out a way to run this heretofore wholly abstract idea of an "unconventional" campaign.

    I would love it if Gore ran. I'd love it too if Feingold would. Or if Obama immediately started living up to the promise his campaign was premised upon. If the choice is between Gore and the rest, count me in. So far, it isn't. And even without him this is a gigantic election and electing any of the Dems over any of the Republicans is still hugely important.
     
  17. rimrocker

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    Quite possibly the stupidest post ever.
     
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    ^^^this gets my vote for most surprising post ever.
     
  19. Batman Jones

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    I'm glad. I was recently similarly obsessed with a mosquito that somehow gained entry to my apartment. He was probably flattered by my attentions too, for a while. The difference between him and you is that he stopped flying around in celebration of that fact after I squashed him.
     
  20. rimrocker

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    I agree for the most part, though I think Obama is too in love with the idea of noble ideas but with no real understanding of how to get there while Gore has a much stronger understanding of what it takes to work the politics and work the bureaucracy towards a goal... Gore seems like he has a decent combo of grand ideas and practicality. It does seem that Obama is learning, but I don't see him having the political chops to make it work his first time out. Next time might be a different story.
     

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