Let's try to get Baron Davis and Elton Brand as well. Davis Arenas McGrady Brand Yao Out of 410 possible man games, I'd say they may make it to 205.
Dude, you guys all need to relax, our roster is set. We just got the final puzzle piece in Romel Beck. And before I get flamed, I am obviously joking.
Don't worry I'm sure all the flames are pointed straight at the TS who suggested we trade away half of our decent players for yet another injured guy making the max. WhoO good job! Together Arenas, Tmac and Yao Ming will eat away around 90% of our cap, possibly leaving us with Chuck Hayes....and all the non-guaranteed guys signed to the min. Since Arenas, Tmac and Yao won't play, I wonder if we might end being the first team to get disqualified due to lack of players in a game...
Are you losing your mind? I've seen some pretty inane trade proposals from you lately, which is odd considering I usually enjoy your posts.
To those saying no, you don't win big in the NBA with role players. Maybe Arenas isn't the answer , but I wouldn't hesitate giving up role players for a healthy star.
LOL. I guess so. Isn't it obvious that Morey is trying to bring in another superstar at some point? Do you really think he is going to fork over another max contract to McGrady........even if McGrady comes back big time this season and throws up a 25/5/5 season? I don't think Morey is going to take that risk. I think if McGrady breaks back out and is comeback player of the year that the most Morey is going to give him is about $1O mill per and if McGrady doesn't take it, Morey lets him walk. So we're in the market for another superstar. I am looking at what I feel are realistic deals for a legit superstar. It would seem to me that if Washington fails at some point this season, that the package I mentioned could be viable to them to move Arenas, get some contract relief, and pick up some good pieces in Brooks, Battier, and Landry. In fact, that may be the very best they could do at the trade deadline and we might get by with throwing more trash their way and keeping back one of Landry or Brooks. What if Arenas recovers? What if what if what if..... Gilbert is a workaholic. Dude gets up in the middle of the night to pile down to the gym and shoot a thousand jumpers. And he's still short of 30 years old. What if he recovers and you could get him to play alongside McGrady, Ariza, Yao, and Scola? What if we could get McGrady back on a reasonable deal to play alongside Arenas, Yao, and Scola? I think it is realistic that Arenas is a superstar that could be traded for at the deadline. Does he fit? I don't know. But I can't hardly believe an offensive coach like Adelman wouldn't salivate at the thought of having a Mike Bibby x 3 in his backcourt. A healthy Arenas is a top 5 point guard and a top 5 perimeter player in the whole league. Possibly superstars available for trade: Gilbert Joe Johnson Amare Bosh ?????
Well Bibby had Divac and Webber to handle the passing necessities of RA's system. We have...Andersen? Anyway even when he's healthy I don't think Arenas is worthy of a max deal...max players play both sides of the coin, and I don't think Arenas plays defense well enough to warrant max money. To be perfectly honest I think DM is moving away from the top-heavy model we had before and going for more balance. If we resign Yao and Tmac to 10 mill deals we won't have space to sign a max player, but if we can keep everyone on the roster as is I see us battling for the top seed in the league in 2010.
I don't necessarily disagree with your line of thinking, jopatmc. You just happened to pick probably the most radioactive player in the league to target. I mean, 15 games in two seasons coupled with the worst contract in the basketball. You would be hard pressed to find a more anti-Morey player in terms of philosophy and roster trends. Are you forgetting that we're the Houston Rockets? I'm terrified at the thought of one of the league's most injury prone players joining this team. I always joked that we should sign Grant Hill just to see what happens. This would be taking it to a whole new level....to the tune of $100M. Brooks/Battier/Landry all for that? If I want a ball dominating, hothead of a PG that can take boatloads of bad shots, score points and play defense whenever he feels like it i'll take a look at Baron Davis for half the price before I do the Wizards any favors by forking over three solid rotation guys for a damaged player that they want to get rid of in the first place.
This might be the worst trade idea ever!!!, why would we ever do this, they obviously get the better part of the deal!!!! -rocketblaze
McGrady will start complaining about touching the ball every 5 minutes. Arenas is going to play point guard not just give the ball to T-Mac and then watch him walk the ball up the halfcourt.
No. The Rockets would be giving up far more than they would be getting back. It would make the Rockets worse. Horrible trade. I have a feeling Morey would feel the same.
There would be a clash at the forward position if Battier went there. Butler and Battier, who would start? And hell no, I would not make this trade.
I'm not saying I'd do it. I'm just throwing it out there to see what you would say. So, you feel that would be overpaying for Arenas and apparently most of you feel like Arenas is too injury prone and his contract too high to be worth anything. So, what if he comes back in the early part of this season, is healthy, and starts putting up 25/5/5 again? And what if Washington is mediocre, going nowhere, and out of the playoff chase by the trade deadline? And what if we are pushing for a 5-8 playoff seeding? If Gilbert was available, what would it be worth trading to get him? Per season, Baron Davis costs just as much as Arenas....and Davis is three years older older and much more injury prone, has problems with weight, and is not nearly as efficient a scorer as Arenas. Gilbert would be a much better bet going forward because of the age diffference, work ethic, and the fact that he is a much more efficient scorer. Any big time superstar is a ball stopper. You could make the same case about Kevin Martin in Sacramento. Arenas is one of the top scorers in the league and his career scoring efficiency is right up there with Kobe Bryant's. Gander over Kobe's stats and Arenas' stats and convince yourself. Would you trade that mess of players for Kobe right now? I would. I'm not saying I'd trade them for Arenas. But I'd have to think about it. And if Arenas comes back healthy and starts balling it up again like he has his whole career when he's not injured, what is he worth then? The big hangup with Gilbert right now is he has been injured for the last two seasons. So, everyone is automatically assuming he is on the downslope. And they may be right. Who knows. SUPERSTARS do not grow on trees. You could make the case that Duncan and Yao are ball stoppers. Bottom line is Arenas, when healthy, can flat put the ball in the hole as well as anyone in the league and he does it great efficiency for a guy that takes a ton of shots. What is he worth? I don't know.
brooks is a young, fast, and slashing point guard Kyle Lowry is pretty fast, can drive hard to the basket, is a better distributo Arenas,,,,, getting old... has to recover his injured knee and is pretty crazy
WORST .... TRADE .... EVER. When we're missing Tracy and Gilbert due to injuries, we'd be starting Lowry, Ariza, and Scola, and a couple of rookies, and then Chuck Hayes and Pops would be our scoring punch off the bench? Man, that lineup would be lucky to win 15 games. Oh, and in cap hell for the next half decade with the Arenas contract.
