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Would you trade Yao for James?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by crimsonice, Nov 23, 2002.

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  1. kbm

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    Yeah, I know what you mean Woofer. I mean like compared to the chinese government ... shhh ... um well, um ... on second thought --- I love ming!
     
  2. Rockets2K

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    He can be the next coming of Jordan all he wants, I STILL would not trade a big man with skills and the kind of attitude that YM has for him.

    YM has the kind of humble, team first attitude that is sorely missing from the NBA these days. and he shoots at a 70% clip most of the time..something you dont find everyday..

    btw...choosing Ming over James doesnt make us homers(tho I am one)..it means we value different skillsets than you do...on top of that..we already have a couple of great guards..why would we want another?
     
  3. verse

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    i broke a backboard support system once in college. would you trade yao ming for me?

    :rolleyes:
     
  4. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    NO WAY !!!

    When dealing with equal talent or potential talent...ALWAYS...and I mean ALWAYS take the taller player.

    You can not teach heighth.

    DaDakota
     
  5. verse

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    and, btw, i have NEVER read anything that says the rockets made the wrong choice in 1984. that speaks to the greatness of hakeem. the only thing i have EVER heard was how stupid portland was for drafting bowie ahead of jordan.


    apparently, you didn't think anyone would call your bluff (lie) on that one....

     
  6. Mr. Clutch

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    I'd go with Lebron.
     
  7. Deckard

    Deckard Blade Runner
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    No.

    And what DaDakota said.
     
  8. verse

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    can someone please give me a logical *basketball related* reason as to why you'd take lebron over yao? as to why you'd take a potentially dominant shooting guard over a potentially dominant center?


    how many legit, superstar 2 guards are in the nba right now? 5, 6 maybe?


    now how many legit, superstar centers are in the nba right now? 1...


    it's a no brainer.
     
  9. Sane

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    "Even if James is the second coming of Jordan"


    GIMME A BREAK. if anyone knew that ANYONE would be as good as Jordan, then you could trade a franchise for him, forget Yao Ming. But there's no guarantee.

    But how about this:

    Someone ends up with the #1 draft choice who doesn't need lebron James. This team lacks depth. I'm guessing Miami, Orlando, or someone who'd rather have big men and depth. So..

    With all the depth and talent we have, they ask for a trade like this:

    Cuttino Mobley (Steve is iffy about this, and makes it public)
    Bostjan nachbar (shown flashes of becoming like Peja)
    Glen Rice
    Kenny Thomas

    They're offering Lebron James and a SF with a huge, ugly contract. It's not that he can't play, but he's not worth the contract. Someone like Pippen long term, or Patterson with bigger numbers....Basically, limited skills, not young, but huge contract.

    We'd look like this:

    Ming/Cato
    Griffin/MoT
    T-Mo/huge contract player
    Lebron James/Hawkins (or whoever)
    Francis


    This team, untouched, will make the Wstern Finals. So this trade takes us one year back. But it's guaranteed that James will be better than Mobley, and his skills fit our team perfectly. Smooth, pass-first game, with explosive ability, rebounding, and even shotblocking. Great work ethic, and predicted by many to make an immediate impact.

    So it takes us back half a year, but it almost GUARANTEES a championship. Ming/Griffin/whoever/James/Francis? Fugghetaboutit.


    Thoughts?

    Of course, we're giving up serious talent in the trade. but it may be well worth it.
     
  10. Mr. Clutch

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    If you think Lebron is gonna be a better basketball player than Yao Ming, you take Lebron. Simple as that. A no brainer. If you think Yao will be better, take Yao.

    Who cares how the breadown of legit players goes? If Jordan was 25 today would you take Yao Ming over him? No, you take the best player.
     
  11. haven

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    How many "Baby Jordans" have we heard of? How many have actually panned out? No way of knowing whether James will or not. Fantastic athleticism isn't a guarantee of success.

    Ming looks like he's going to be a great center, right now.

    Also, the character issues do come into play when there's as much uncertainty in future success as there is here. It might not be James fault, but he's getting some very, very poor advice right now. The fame is ruining him.
     
  12. verse

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    Mr. Clutch,


    ok, let's look at it this way: with our team...why would you rather have another guard????


    also, who's the better player: kobe or kidd? i'd argue for kidd, personally, but either way, you have to look at the value of that player for your team. for the rockets, we don't need yet another guard.


    oh, and as for your jordan question...at 25 jordan was a proven nba superstar. lebron james at this point, is another high profile "next jordan wannabe" that hasn't proven anything.


    QUESTION: would you have traded yao ming for felipe lopez coming out of high school? because he was dubbed the "NEXT MJ" as well. but we see where that went.
     
  13. Mr. Clutch

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    Verse,

    The Rockets right now at the 2 and 3 spots are actually kind of weak. Mobley is good but there is definite room for improvement. Rice is old, Nachbar is unproven, and Hawkins is a defensive player. Kenny Thomas is more suited to be a power forward, as are Griffin and Taylor. The Rockets could definitely use a McGrady- like player.

    I think Kidd is the better player than Kobe.

    Yes, you have to look at the team but even if the team is stacked at one position you should take a player who will be a great talent. Look at the Grizzlies- they already had Gasol and Swift at power forward but Jerry West decided to take Drew Gooden anyways.

    From what I've read Lebron is the definite #1 pick and almot a sure shot to be a star. No, it's not 100%, but it's pretty much a consensus from the people who have seen him play. And it's not fair to call him a baby Jordan, people are saying he has great passing instincts and gets his teammates involved. He's not just a scorer.

    And Ming isn't proven either. It's still only his first year and he has a lot to prove. Don't get me wrong, I think Ming will be a great player, possibly a superstar, but from what I've read I'd rather have Lebron.
     
  14. A-Train

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    Great Centers come along once every ten years?

    Let's see:

    Hakeem - 1984
    Ewing - 1985
    Robinson - 1987 (didn't play until 1989)
    Shaq - 1992
    Duncan - 1997 (no, he's NOT a forward, despite what your all star ballot says)
    Ming - 2002

    Assuming Ming reaches greatness, that's six great centers in 18 years, so about one every three years. ;)

    This isn't even counting the solid, all star centers like Mutumbo, Mourning, Sabonis, and Divac. Of course, the last great center before Hakeem was...what...Kareem Abdul Jabbar? So, it's just been a really good couple of decades for centers.

    The thing that intrigues me about Lebron is that he can play three positions on the court, while Ming is basically stuck to playing inside 15 feet. I'd probably still take Ming, though...
     
  15. fatfatcow

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    I take yao ming if i am a gm cuz the market value behind him:D :D
     
  16. Manny Ramirez

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    ditto.

    Oh and BTW - might as well make something clear now:

    I (don't know about others) would not trade Yao for ANYONE. Period.
     
  17. ooliverb1

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    Only info I got is from the web sites...

    Another thing I know is that he is going to start to play in Chinese Professional League next month.
     
  18. peleincubus

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    If you could get James on this team you wouldnt need a 5th player.

    Francis
    Ming
    Griffin
    James
    Me:p
     
  19. BSW

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    Yaaaawwwwwwnnnnn!!!!
     
  20. cchai

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    Yes, I would trade Yao for John Salley's head.
     

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