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Would you trade Tracy now with the problems he has?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by tested911, Mar 10, 2006.

  1. alexcapone

    alexcapone Member

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    This is all just one big hypothetical, but in my opinion could work:

    I'm not sure exactly how Lebron's contract works but he gets a qualifying offer in 07-08. Now I know there is already talk about him leaving after his contract is up and surely the Cavs won't want to lose him for nothing. In the meantime maybe Tmac can rehab and have a couple spectacular seasons and his trade value will be at the level it was when we got him from orlando. Maybe the Cavs would consider picking up TMac in a sign and trade with Lebron. I doubt there will be any available premiere players at Tmac's level by the end of Lebron's contract. My only hope is that Tmac can string together a couple good seasons to show there is close to equal value. And even if Tmac has a good season next year I would still pull the trigger because his injury is so volitle I would dump the stock as soon as it goes back up. I know it sounds disloyal but the NBA is a business and the Rox have to make the investments that are in their best interests.

    I'll always love tmac though.
     
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  2. JoeBarelyCares

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    If he has a repeat of this year, he will be untouchable because no one will want to touch his contract.
     
  3. ShadyMcGrady

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    A healthy McGrady is better than a healthy LeBron. This franchise isn't trading away T-Mac, no matter how many people want it...
     
  4. edwardlo

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    I want the same stuff that you are smoking. I am not dissing McGrady, he is a superstar. But LeBron is on top of TMac game now and up coming. I still don't want to trade TMac with Lebron although many will strongly disagree with me.
     
  5. xcomputerman

    xcomputerman Contributing Member

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    Please. You amazingly shortsighted human beings.

    1. LeBron isn't half the defender T-Mac is.
    2. LeBron isn't half the clutch player T-Mac is.
    3. LeBron still cannot take over a game at will, the way a healthy (or even semi-healthy) T-Mac can (or Kobe for that matter).

    There are only two advantages LeBron has over T-Mac right now:
    1. His size and athleticism.
    2. He's a slightly better passer.

    That's it. Don't let one injury-plagued season deprive you of the memories of the superhuman things T-Mac has done on this team, like 13 points in 35 seconds, or the entire 7 game series against the Mavs last year where he made one incredible play after another and was thought to be one of the greatest playoff players ever. LeBron as he is can't even compose himself well enough to make free throws at the end of a regular season game. Pfft.

    I have to rave about T-Mac a bit because I'm just about sick and tired of watching everyone here throw him to the dogs because of an injury.
     
  6. alexcapone

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    Okay responding to everything you just said:

    1) LeBron isn't half the defender T-Mac is:Based on what evidence? You have one good series of Tmac playing defense on Dirk, but he even got shut down by Ryan Bowen. The rest of his career he's taken heat for not playing defense...

    2) Tmac is more clutch than Lebron: So you're basing this off of 223 games that a 21 year old has played versus 612 games that a 27 year old has played? To me that makes no sense. Does anyone else realize that Lebron is doing things that no 21 year old in the history of the NBA is doing?? You gotta give him a little more time to develop before you can put that cricisim on him. He's still growing physically and mentally as a basketball player.

    3. LeBron still cannot take over a game at will, the way a healthy T-Mac can-Umm, Did you see the Miami game last Sunday?? He was single handedly scoring on their defense at the end of the game to get the cavs back in it. Secondly, if you wanna criticize his ability to take over games why don't you talk about his ability to get his teammates involved and play his offensive within the flow of the game. If you ever see lebron score his points, he's always doing it in the rhythm of the game and never imposing his will on the game which is something Kobe needs to learn if he wants to win. I am certain that in his career that the ball will be in his hands for all the pressure shot situations in the biggest playoff series.

    I am questionable that Tmac can play at the level he has played because of his back. We all know that of all injuries that can plague a career to no end is someone's back. Tmac is 27 years old and possibly facing surgery and i guarantee you that if CD had the option to jump on Lebron he would. A 21 year old stud with promise is definetley more reassuring than a 27 year old with 9 years of NBA wear and tear and a chronic back problem. Either way, something has to be done soon because yao is hitting his prime and we need to stay competitive during this time.
     
  7. smoothie

    smoothie Jabari Jungle

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    i'm shocked that with all of this trade talk not one poster wanted arenas.

    his age, contract, and overall, stats would make him a great fit next to yao (hypothetically if tmac gets traded).
     
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    LOL. Why should Cleveland offer Lebron for TMac when his back is a big uncertainty?

    The only way Cleveland will consider the offer is when Rockets offer Yao + TMac for Lebron + Big Z + fillers.
     
  9. alexcapone

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    Not saying a deal like that could happen right now(read a few posts above). I am saying that if (big if) Tmac can string together a couple great seasons and Lebron wants out of cleveland it could set up a scenario for the deal to take place. Cleveland would certainly want recoupment for the loss of LBJ and Tmac would be the best option because I'm sure LA would not part with Kobe.
     
  10. Lance Berkman

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    All of yall that want to trade T-Mac are bandwagoners. You praise T-Mac when he scores 35+ and demand him traded when he goes for 9-25.

    Yall don't realize the player wearing the jersey. Two-time NBA scoring champ, led Orlando to the playoffs with no help 3 times, scored 13 points in 35 seconds, played MVP-like during the playoffs last year, and lets not forget one of the greatest dunks in NBA history over Bradley.

    Give the man some time. He'll come back full force next season and lead us to the promise land with the beast we now call Yao.

    Oh, and you don't trade a healthy T-Mac for Lebron. You don't trade a healthy T-Mac for anyone.
     
  11. ccjj

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    If Tmac can have a couple spectacular seasons with yao, the Rockets would bring back a couple of rings already....if not, its the Rocket's management need to be replaced, not Tmac.
     
  12. Nelly

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    Exactly. Duncan this season has been on cruise control because he knows his team can get wins even if he isnt going all out and getting crazy numbers all season. Replacing Yao and Tmac's teammates is the solution not replacing the stars themselves.
     
  13. daoshi

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    Then, you need to fire JVG, hire a different coach. Arenas is the kind of guards plays with creativity, "out of control" often time. There is no way JVG could coach a player like Arenas.
     
  14. RocketForever

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    True. A Yao-Lebron experiment would be fun. But I wont take it at the expense of losing Tmac.

    How did Lebron play in his last playoff game anyway? Oh ..I forgot he hasn't played one yet.

    Yao will continue to make progress. Tmac will come back strong next year. Together they will win multiple championships in the next 7 years.
     
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    Not until a "Trade Yao" thread come up again. Then we can dump both of their bloated contract and make enough cap space to sign up Mike "the scorer" James.
     

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