I'm with AntiSonic on this one... Cancer might be a little bit overboard but I've viewed Tracy as trade material for the past 3+ years.. Reasons Why: *He's getting old and the only reason why I say that is because he started when he was 17 yrs old.. (A lot of years on that body) *His athletic ability to drive past his defender is average at best.. *His desire to win or his so called leadership skills on the court has yet to be seen. *He whines like a little B@%$ every time he gets the slightest touch. *He can no longer jump like his days in Orlando *He has gained weight which I I think has contributed to his injuries and recovery. *He is to stagnant when the ball is not in his procession. He doesn't move in the offense whatsoever and just stands there. *He cannot defend anymore and the only reason why he is decent is because he is tall and long. How many times have we seen where the opposing #1 man defends Tracy but Tracy hardly defends them only to have Shane or now Artest do the dirty work. I could go on and on but the Tracy of a decade ago has been long gone my friends and he has reverted to being more a jump shooter which he Sucks at.
The only one you could trade Tmac for would be Marbury....and the only way you do that is to get the money off your books. Let's give them some time, ok? DD
For the team in general I think they can improve with time, but what is that you want to give T-Mac time to become? A 41% shooter? A 43% shooter? Or a 40% shooter?
Salaries don't match. Rudy F, Outlaw, maybe Pryzibila ... A third team needs get involved. I don't mind getting a Josh Howard type player+ Rudy.F back for Tmac
Still have the same problem though that I discussed in the other thread. If your PG can't shoot a lick and your 3s are not jumpshooters, who cares if T-Mac is a facilitator? No one around him can pull and hit a jumpshot!
In all honesty, I'd explore a deal for Ben Gordon. Put Gordon at the 1 and McGrady at the 2 for defensive purposes, but T-Mac should play the 1 on offense. I don't care if he expends all of his energy facilitating, the less he shoots the better.
The problem dakota is that you cannot have 2 player on court that are not bigs and cannot hit the 3´s. Right now our only real 3 point threat is Barry, along with him, only Scola and Artest know how to play off the ball and artest is really hesitant to do it as it is. If your starting 5 is Yao, Scola, Artest, T-Mac, Alston then you actually have no 3 point threat players. I say Brooks or Barry have to start the game in order to have real chances to space the floor for any purpouses. If you ask mee i would go Yao, Landry, Artest, Barry, Alston as starters and Scola, Hayes, T-Mac, Head, Brooks as second unit. There you go with at least shooters in all sets and potential post up players. The thong here is that you have to have the guts to move players as you feel and do it convinced, if not the players will start complaining about roles (t-mac) or shoots (t-mac) or whatever (t-mac). But i do feel that T-Mac-Scola combo is better than T-Mac-Yao cause Yao seems to play better with the scrubs than t-mac and same goes for t-mac without yao, plus scola is much better when he is given the wight inside. Landry on the other side plays better off Yao than Scola and is a better offensive rebounder that is where Yao lacks, Defensively playing alongside Hayes will help scola a lot and same will be for landry to play alongside Yao. Artest can play without trubling T-Mac and same goes for artest and Brooks can share the court with t-mac having a real 3 point shootter plus playmaker alongside t-mac so that he doesn´t need to do everything and can focus on creating or finishing. Barry alongside artest annd Yao will have a lot of options to shoot open and alston can continuee clanking the shots he takes off barry, yao or artest because those won´t be a lot.
Another thread about tracy. He's always in a no win situation. When he plays injured, he's crappy. When he sits out, he's faking. When Yao goes down and the team wins 68% of the games, people love tracy again. If nothing else, I think you ride him out and go after Lebron that summer. We can all talk about how poor he played, but if you watch the game against the lakers, when he has the ball,its still strong side zone. Rudy Fernandez has had a couple good games in the regular season which has nothing to do with postseason. I know I'm preaching to the choir though.
good may be, but i said threat, nor him or tracy are above .400 3p career shooters. While Artest is shooting at a decent clip he will sooner or later fall to his career averages. Barry would come on handy to be that "open man" if he can stay on court for say 15 mins a game.
I think you ride him out this year. Wait til after the season. If this team is 12 games under .500 at the break, that in itself will be cause for moves within the year. I dont see that happening. But this is the year to put players on the hot seat. Starting with McGrady and Yao, until it gets to Adelman. I dont think that'd hurt too much
i dont understand why people want to trade chuck hayes look at this guy he has a screwed up arm and he still plays. tmac poor fellow has a cold so he dont play. hayes shut down dirk in the fourth one of the best defenders on the court.
We can go on and on, but 3pt shooters aren't the problem imo. Its more about rebounding, defense ad toughness with the rox. The rox can't win is yao gets cancelled out. When playing a team like the lakers,cavs, or even boston, we expect the wings to kinda cancel each other out, but when yao gets cancelled out when there is 4 centers in the entire league, that's a problem. This team needs to get healthy, Morey needs to get rid of francis,head, and alston for some size inside and it will be alright.
I would explore a Michael Redd or Rip Hamilton trade for T-Mac or i would have loved Iverson if he were already on the east but i wouldn't have sent him to the nuggets... I think our offense would benefit from one of these guys bc t-mac just stands around on both sides of the ball. Unfortunately, the trade would affect our pg position which would surely, most definetly need to be upgraded if we traded T-Mac. It's just that i become scared that we wont have a super threat at the end of games like the lakers or celtics or even hornets do. I think were stuck with poor first few months of the season as usual b4 t-mac likes to pick it up and i have no problem with his playoff performance as long as everyone is healthy. Go for Lebron when he expires. But for the record, i am very upset with Yao as well and i think a lot of people would agree with me that i would rather have drafted Amare instead. Imagine if we had Amare or D.Howard? But....Yao does try. And thats a lot more than what T-Mac does.
