LOL dude you are so narrow minded i can't even begin to say. If you are making that statement, i hope to god you don't know a lot about basketball. I gotta agree with you on one thing, the FT shooting
did i say he's better than kobe? lebron? duncan? we're talking about freakin' manu right now. the guy that no one talks about in the media after sucking basically against a team that puts vujacic on him. are you serious that i'm underrating manu? tmac struggled v. fisher last yr and he got criticized. the pressure i'm talking about is the pressure the media puts on him and how he's the guy that gets most of the blame if the team loses. manu does not have that. hey, tmac is an "above average" player to you so i guess i am overrating him.
If you disagree with any part of my post, you should be specific as to which part and why you feel otherwise. Did you notice how I used stats to help make my point? That gives credibility to my argument.
did i not respond in my earlier posts that tmac did not have his deficiencies? i've said numerous times he needs to improve his shot, esp. fts. but what you tend to ignore is his all-around #s in 27, 8, 7 that he put up. TELL ME WHO ELSE DOES THAT RIGHT NOW BESIDES KOBE AND LEBRON IN THE PLAYOFFS? geez, you point out 2 of his weaknesses and tend to forget about a lot of his strengths, on a few injuries i might add. the only 2 perimeter players that put up comparable #s to tmac in the playoffs were kobe and lebron (who shot even worse) and those are 2 players who are better than him. so yes i noticed the stats you put up that were "embarrassing." but you forgot to put up the ones that make him one of the 3-4 best perimeter players in the L. like i said, to you, tmac is an ABOVE AVERAGE player. so you already made up your mind that he's an above average player.
You're deriving your entire opinion on him based on what he did in one series. Why dont you take this narrow minded approach a bit further and form your opinion of Tmac based on his 4th quarter performances in games 1 & 2? Pressure is the byproduct of expectations. With greater expectations, there is greater pressure. Can you find any article that expected the rockets to win the series? And Tmac gets blame if the team loses b/c the offense is always run through him. Thats not the case with Manu. The term "above average" can be used to describe anyone who is above average. Even Kobe is above average. But he's further above average than Tmac.
well, i never said tmac was the best and i said he had his deficiencies (what part of that don't you understand?). i'm just saying he's still a top 5 perimeter player basically. there's something to be said about tmac if he's still among the top 5 perimeter players in the L. the only perimeter players you can definitely say are better than tmac in terms of game dominance are kobe, lebron, and chris paul. trust me, you had one earlier post where you ranked the players and tmac was "above average." kobe was in your super category. so please, do not retract from what you said.
What do you want me to say? Those are good numbers. But the offense is run through him the entire game. What do you expect? To his credit though, he did attack the basket more than I originally expected. For a swing man, ft shooting and 3pt shooting deficiencies are incredibly important. Dont underrate their importance. To be one of the best perimeter players, doesnt he need to be able to shoot from the perimeter?
I'm not retracting anything. I'm just clarifying your misconception. Out of curiosity, who else was in my "super" category and who else was in my "above average" category?
Wacko, the thing with you is, and im being ENTIRELY serious here, we give you evidence every time and you nitpick the same **** over and over. Like that one guy said, its like arguing with a wall. Again you bring up the 4th qrtr crap of games 1 and 2, i think we spent 2 whole pages explaining to you about how when rafer returned he played well. What about Manu disappearing in every game besides the 30 pt one he had? Huh? Your looking at things with a one dimensional aspect, and that is why most people dont take you seriously and call you an idiot.
What do you expect me to do when I bring up valid, irrefutable points and you guys choose to ignore it. Btw, its "wekko" Again you take things out of context. The poster was basing his judgement of Manu solely on his performance against the Lakers. If he's going to make his sample size that small, then its fair to judge Tmac solely by his performance in the 4th periods of games 1 & 2. The point is, to make a fair assessment, you have to use a large enough sample to ensure objectivity (which the poster has failed to do). He disappeared and they lost. What else do you want me to say about it? And one dimensional? I seem to be one of the few people who is taking everything into account. If people here dont take me seriously, they probably cant understand the logic. If they call me an idiot, then they definitely dont understand the logic. Therefore, they feel the need to resort to name-calling.
I'm glad you are taking offense to the name calling when YOU were in fact the one that said, "TMAC DESERVES EVERY NAME HE HAS BEEN CALLED." A large enough sample? Look I'm pretty sure me/ a lot of other people on here have taken a stats class and know what we are talking about. But like you said, for everyone else to think that you are an idiot, they are in fact idiots, just like our idiot GM who would never think of making this idiotic trade.
I didnt take offense. I figured you were somewhat illiterate and I was trying to help you out. If that were the case, Manu wouldnt be judged based solely on his performance against the Lakers. If for some reason SA were to offer Manu + 10 million cash for Tmac, I think Morey would have to think long and hard about it.
When has T-Mac? The diminishment of his physical gifts, the focus on an inside-out offense, the ability of Yao to demand a constant double team in the post--there's no question that Yao is the centerpiece of the Rockets' offense right now and should continue to be. As Charles Barkley said, "The Rockets need to realize this is Yao's team."
Here's a thread from spurstalk about T-Mac for Manu... http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=83202&highlight=mcgrady+manu ...something tells me the fans wouldn't trade him for anyone at least at that time.
Ouch, and I thought the fans here were tough on T-Mac. Maybe t_mac1 should head over there and set those guys straight.
I did too but now some people can see how he's view by other teams and what most would do. I would never trade T-Mac for Manu but that's me and my opinion.
It's funny how those Spurs fans think Manu is better than T-Mac. It's perfectly understandable though; players on championship teams tend to be overvalued by their fans.
I believe when Tracy came back from his "injuries" and the team was on a roll, Tracy did take a back seat (came off the bench for that week) and totally played within the system. Problem is when one of them is out, Yao or Tracy HAS to take that Batman roll for the Rockets to have ANY chance.
