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Would you trade TMac for Manu?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DaDakota, Apr 22, 2008.

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Would you trade Tmac for Manu

  1. Yes

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  2. No

    528 vote(s)
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  1. rock8ts

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    what? you're comparing him to LeBron. Get out of here.
     
  2. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Well we won 55 this year.

    DD
     
  3. badgerfan

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    Nuts. The rest of the team had something to do with that record as well. In fact, the biggest factor in the win streak was probably Scola moving into the starting lineup.

    T-Mac isn't a bad player by any means. But he's far from perfect--his health is an issue and he's fragile physically and mentally. I don't think a trade really makes any sense because it's unlikely that the Rockets will be able to get back equal value on what is still a very good player, but if you had a mind control ray and could force the Spurs to trade you Manu and a second player for T-Mac why wouldn't you?
     
  4. abc2007

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    I don't want to discuss Tmac, Manu, James, or Kobe, who is better than who.

    But, I really don't understand the fans here. Since you like those players so much, why don't you guys just go to watch the games of those players' teams. This is just like that, if you think other women or men are much better than your wife or husband and you feel your marriage is miserable, why don't divorce and try to marry the person who you really love!!!
     
  5. BigM

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    wow a lot of people on this board that we should be very thankful aren't rocket's gm's.


    ginobili plays 30 minutes with tim duncan and tony parker to take away 2/3's of the pressure, not to mention a system and a group of players he's been with forever. san antonio is a machine and ginobili is just a piece.


    what kind of crack do you have to smoke to even believe that ginobili could play t-macs minutes and lead this group of players even this far?
     
  6. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    It depends less on what you think of Ginbobli and his teamates and more about whether or not you think Tmac is on the decline....

    Tmac usually raises his game in the playoffs, not this year....Tmac usually takes over and rasises his game when Yao goes out...not this year....

    Maybe, just maybe, Tmac's days of being a dominant player are over.

    DD
     
  7. leebigez

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    I kinda agree with u DD, but what I think is better to say is his days of being a dominant scorer is over. I don't think that's a bad thing. I think his ability to create and do other things should be viewed as a blessing rathr than a curse. How long do u think mcgrady can play the pippen role? I think if u add a gordon or artest, I can easily see him being 18ppg 7 asst 7 rebs. I don't think he'll be that dynamic scorer,but he allows u to add guys that can score and he wouldn't care. He's been a scoring champion and I don't think thatgs what he wants to do anymore.
     
  8. Easy

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    LOL. This is a question with only two possible answers: yes or no. Anything else is ducking the question.

    If you are really sure we should trade T-Mac for Manu, you should answer both questions with a resounding YES.

    But you can't do it honestly, do you?

    Let me make the question a little easier for you:
    Could Ginobili win more games with this bunch of Rocket players than McGrady did?
    Would the Spurs a better team with McGrady coming off the bench rather than with Ginobili?
     
  9. tangsanmao

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    Tracy is the best in my heart,never trade Tracy for anyone.It's hard to love a NBA superstar ,I don't want lose him.For Rockets with YAO!
     
  10. marciagong

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    If you really love him, you should wish that he could be traded to the Spurs.
     
  11. krockets

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    It depends less on what you think of Tmac and our team and more about whether or not you think Ginoboli is on the way to be a 6th man....

    Ginoboli usually play as a starter in the past, not this year....Ginoboli usually play with Duncan and Parker at the beginning of the game.... not this year....

    Maybe, just maybe, Ginoboli's days of being a starter are over. And I don't think it's smart to trade our star for a 6th man. :D
     
  12. StevieCrossover

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    Ginoboli is a good player but for t-mac i would say no. I hate ginobili, he's such a big flopper!!! I hate floppers and it annoys the crap out of me
     
  13. engr chris

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    I like this trade!
     
  14. BucMan55

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    The biggest factor in that 22 game winning streak was that the whole team chipped in and helped secure victories. You never knew who was going to have a big game. T-Mac didnt have to do it all for the whole game. The other guys did their share early, and sometimes T-Mac had to take over when the defense buckled down in the 4th. But he had the energy, and the fact that his teammates were rolling meant the double teams couldnt come as early and the paint couldnt be as packed.

    Trap on the PNR?? Landry for a monster slam!


    Keep your swing men close to the paint for help defense?? Bobby, Luther, and Shane for 3!!

    Try to play T-Mac honest?? Create seperation and either bury a 20 footer in your face or drive right by setting up an easy play for Scola/Landry/Hayes.
     
  15. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    *StupidMoniker dons flame r****dant clothing*
    I would say the biggest factor was playing a bunch of crappy teams and teams without their good players.
    *StupidMoniker runs for cover*
     
  16. cavevato

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    Am I reading this right? In crunch time Manu gets assisted 18% more than McGrady does? Must be nice playing w/ a good Point Guard :eek: I wonder what percentage of his points are assisted throughout the game. We really need to upgrade at point guard :(
     
  17. T.Mcgrady

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    I'm still not understanding WHY anyone would want to trade McGrady to a team in the same conference AND division as us with that many GREAT spot-up shooters (Finley, Barry, Horry, Bowen, Stoudamire), defenders (Duncan, Bowen, Udoka, Thomas, Oberto), and slashers/scorers (Parker, Duncan, Stoudamire).

    Can you guys understand how dominant a team like that with McGrady would be? He has problems scoring at times (especially as of late) but his playmaking ability is still top notch, and when he isn't doubled he can still score at will.

    Not only would it hurt the Rockets, it'd strengthen the Spurs. Defenses wouldn't be able to key in on him like they do now.. it would make a huge difference.
     
  18. krayziefl

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    uh hell no.

    Anyway from t-macs standpoint that would be good: 1 Change of getting a ring alot higher with the spurs, 2 Manu would get all the hate, 3 taking manu 30 minutes role of the bench, he's gonna kill everybody
     
  19. Darmonx

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    Manu is a great role player. He's successful because he feeds of double teams created by Tim Duncan or Tony Parker.

    TMac is the number 1 option so for the Rockets, you are not improving, but for the Spurs to have TMac step in as a role player will be a tremendous advantage.

    So no for the trade on Manu. For TMac, I'd look for a CP3 or Lebron type of player for a trade. Not a role player.
     
  20. Seth

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    There are a few things that i have to point you and many other posters that seem not to watch a single spur game and speak as if they did.

    The best scorer this year, on the Spurs, playing less, shooting less, and having the ball less in his hands, has been Manu Ginobili.

    That said i´ll go to double teams, Ginobili is the only Spur besides Duncan that is double teamed, I don´t have a stat but go around any Spur board and you´ll see, i can give you Playoffs example for this, last year Denver and Phoenix all double teamed Manu, no Parker, being Denver very aggressive with the double teams.

    About T-Mac doing what Manu does, i don´t think it can be done SOOO easy, sure is doable, but you cannot say it´s a fact, look at Finley, he came to the Spurs after a season of averaging 15.7 ppg on .430 shooting and .410 behind the arc, the Spurs thought that he was the perfect piece that would let them start Manu and have a scoring threat off the bench, in his first season as a Spur all his averages fall down, and Popovich had to make him a starter to regain his touch while Manu went back to the bench.
     
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