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Would you trade Stromile Swift to NJ for draft picks????

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Yaowaming, Feb 2, 2006.

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  1. Little O

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    If you can get 2 picks for Stro, you do this trade. The team is no worse this year than they were last year at PF and we did fine. Think about it. We had Howard, Spoon, and Padgett. If stro leaves, we are in the same situation. Howard, Hayes, and Baxter.

    Plus 2 more picks is good in this draft since it is so weak. You will probably need all the chances you can get to get a good player.

    It would be nice to parlay him for a guard, but our guards are getting healthy again so I am not sure there is a need to trade for a mediocre guard.

    I say do it.
     
    #21 Little O, Feb 2, 2006
  2. gsd99rhc

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    i can't imagine any team willing to give up a first round pick for stromile. at most, a couple of second round picks. other teams are well aware that if a losing team with injuries isn't willing to play him, then there's something very wrong.

    he can no longer use the excuse of "young player". the man has been in the league for years now, and plays like he just took up organized basketball. practices and offseason are for improving your skills and strength--apparently stromile is not interested in doing either.
     
    #22 gsd99rhc, Feb 2, 2006
  3. JayZ750

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    Both draft picks for Swift...um, yes you do that. The draft picks are currently kind of low, but allows you take a flyer on an international player, or an under the radar player, like a Nick Fazekas. Or, they act as more trade bait. If there's someone you are really targeting at 13 or 14 you can package both and maybe move up. What's more, you get a do-over on Swift.
     
    #23 JayZ750, Feb 2, 2006
  4. justtxyank

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    Well since he isn't going to play here anway, I'd trade for whatever I could get.
     
    #24 justtxyank, Feb 2, 2006
  5. rusHour

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    I agree with what some said above by getting the most from NJ with a Stro trade. As of right now, Stro could be alot more valuable to them as he is to us....almost like a Kenyon Martin a few years back. I actaully like Stro and like what he could "bring" but I also am starting to fall for Hayes at the same time...
     
    #25 rusHour, Feb 2, 2006
  6. hooroo

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    give swift a break.

    the only major trade i'd like would be rafer for earl watson. rafer hasn' been bad but rocks need better d and more of a 3pt presence in the backcourt.
     
    #26 hooroo, Feb 2, 2006
  7. Jrazz

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    When is the trading deadline? Lets ket Stor play with T-Mac and Yao for a few weeks. Lets us dertermine his value as a role player, not as an out of place go to guy. If we have a few weeks bfore the trading deadline, lets see.
     
    #27 Jrazz, Feb 2, 2006
  8. jeremyang2002

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    Swift+2nd round pick for Marc Jackson+2 1st round picks
     
    #28 jeremyang2002, Feb 2, 2006
  9. rocketsmetalspd

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    Stro should be traded. No matter the amount of time he gets to play he is not suited for the Rockets. Stro belongs on a team that is not as strict as JVG has his offense. Stro needs to be on a team like NJ. I hope he gets to show his skills somewhere else because it will not work for the Rockets.
     
    #29 rocketsmetalspd, Feb 2, 2006
  10. tinman

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    How about Tim Thomas? :cool:
     
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  11. jopatmc

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    Stro to NJ. Marc Jackson and one first round pick to Golden State. The other pick to Houston. Moochie and Luther to Golden State. Pietrus and Foyle to Houston. Git 'er done.
     
    #31 jopatmc, Feb 2, 2006
  12. gsd99rhc

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    the nets are a different type of team now. they are much more of a half court team then a fast paced team. kidd can't run up and down the court at full speed like he used to. therefore, they slow it down and let carter and jefferson break down their defenders, and let kristic have the leftovers (mid range jumpers).

    transition ability is overrated in this league, unless you have the proper attitude and systems (and point guard) like phoenix. for all other teams, transition basically means someone gets a steal and has a couple of breakaway dunks a few times a game. simply being athletic and fast doesn't transalate into being a good transition player.

    amare was a great transition player because of three things: nash, the phoenix system, and his great speed/awareness/desire. martin was the same, except with kidd. i don't think stromile has the awareness to get down the court quickly for kidd to lob him the ball (like martin).
     
    #32 gsd99rhc, Feb 2, 2006
  13. glynch

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    NJ is the perfect trading partner. Go get the two first rounders ,plus Jackson if his contract will expire in a year. Stro plus Motumbo is what they need. They have stud perimeter players who are ready to challenge now if they can get some more help upfront. Their time is now.

    Our time is next year or the year after.
     
    #33 glynch, Feb 2, 2006
  14. caffreys_irish_ale

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    This thread should have been put to a vote.

    A resounding YES here.

    But I believe that a trade must be within 15% in Salary so we would have to send money if we don't get anyone in return. So maybe the suggestion above is good.
     
    #34 caffreys_irish_ale, Feb 2, 2006
  15. m_cable

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    They're not going to want Mutombo. They just got through paying his buyout. I doubt they want him back two years later.
     
    #35 m_cable, Feb 2, 2006
  16. jeremyang2002

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    another possible trade:

    Swift+Moochie+2007 1st round pick to Warriors

    Murphy+Cheaney to Rockets
     
    #36 jeremyang2002, Feb 3, 2006
  17. jopatmc

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    Mmmmmmmmmmmmmm, no. We want Pietrus.
     
    #37 jopatmc, Feb 3, 2006
  18. Asian Sensation

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    Murphy would be too perfect for this team. He's a banger, can rebound, and has a very nice jumper. With that said I think he makes too much money for us to afford and is a part of the Warriors long term plan I believe.
     
    #38 Asian Sensation, Feb 3, 2006
  19. Yaowaming

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    'but Houston isn't moving Swift', is that true?????


    http://www.northjersey.com/page.php...lRUV5eTY4NzMyODUmeXJpcnk3ZjcxN2Y3dnFlZUVFeXk2

    Nets feel they can play with East's elite

    Friday, February 3, 2006

    By AL IANNAZZONE
    STAFF WRITER



    Since returning from their dreadful winless trip West, the Nets have displayed their good and bad qualities.

    They defended and executed, handing the Pistons just their sixth loss of the season Tuesday. But endgame lapses and bad shooting and rebounding cost the Nets a very winnable game the next night against LeBron James' Cavaliers.


    "We're fighting," Jason Kidd said. "We didn't quit. We just didn't play well out West and these last two games showed that we can compete with the top teams in the Eastern Conference."

    The Nets have battled the East's top three teams. They're 1-1 against the Pistons and Heat and 2-1 against the Cavaliers. But the Nets still haven't beaten the Shaq-led Heat without a superhuman effort.

    Vince Carter scored 51 points on Dec. 23 in Miami to end a 10-game skid against the Heat. When the Nets begin a five-game homestand Saturday against Miami, it may take another special game from one of their stars to win.

    Even if they do, the popular opinion outside the Nets' locker room is that this team can't beat the Pistons or Heat in a seven-game series.

    Although Marc Jackson believes otherwise, the Nets lack the size and strength to battle Shaq.

    The Nets are solid on the perimeter with Kidd, Carter and Richard Jefferson. The Pistons and Heat are strong everywhere, especially up front.

    The Nets match up better with Cleveland. But they don't measure themselves against the Cavaliers. The Nets want to be in the Pistons and Spurs' class, which clearly they are not.

    The Feb. 23 trading deadline is approaching, and it's unlikely the Nets will pull off a blockbuster deal for a big man, unless Kevin Garnett suddenly becomes available.

    The Nets would part with their 2006 two first-round picks, but for someone who can help them now. With so few talented, athletic big men, teams that have them aren't willing to move them, not for Jackson or Zoran Planinic.

    Their efforts to get Melvin Ely and Chris Wilcox have been rebuffed. The Nets weren't interested in Steven Hunter or Mark Blount, limited players with bloated contracts.

    Stromile Swift and Drew Gooden would work, but Houston isn't moving Swift and the Cavaliers don't want what the Nets have.

    Robert "Tractor" Traylor, who agreed on a deal with the Nets over the summer until it was discovered he had a heart problem, is a possibility.

    Traylor, who had an operation to repair his aortic valve, may work out for the Nets once doctors clear him. Traylor doesn't seem to be the answer, though.

    The Nets are finding it tough to make a deal because teams aren't banging down their doors for backups who don't play.

    Also, the Nets have three max-contract players and yet Jefferson only can be traded for someone who earns half his salary this year.

    In the meantime, president Rod Thorn and GM Ed Stefanski will continue looking to upgrade the Nets.

    "We still think we're a good team," Carter said. "We didn't get blown out of [Cleveland] for one. We're capable."

    They're capable, but the Nets may come up short against Detroit and Miami in a seven-game series.

    BRIEFS: As expected, Carter wasn't voted an All-Star starter for the first time in his career. The spots went to Allen Iverson and Dwyane Wade. "That's fine with me," said Carter, who likely will be named a reserve by the coaches next week.

    E-mail: iannazzone@northjersey.com


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    #39 Yaowaming, Feb 3, 2006
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